From: jonz on 4 Sep 2009 21:33
F Murtz wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>> "jonz" <fj40(a)diesel.com> wrote in message
>>> FUCKEN BULLSHIT......come up with a cite, you bullshitting cretin...
>> So Prefects (and Anglia's) didn't jump out of gear?
>> You're kidding, right?
> and austin 10s. I made 2 hooks up under the dash to hook the gear
> stick on.
nope....not (particularly)the ones that i had dealings with...(and
growing up in NZ meant *lots*)....the place was chokka`s with old pom
and yank tin in the `50`s thru `70`s and i reckon i`ve owned or driven
most of them...the pain for me was E series Vauxhalls, shearing the key
on rear axle, usually during a traffic light drag....most
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From: D Walford on 4 Sep 2009 21:58
> "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
>> "186ci fuel injected turbo charged 6 cylinder Holden engine, producing
> Wow :)
> I'll bet he works *hard* at keeping that together :)
I don't know a lot about the internals of that engine but you can 100%
guarantee they will the best that money can buy, if parts good enough
weren't available off the shelf I doubt he would worry about how much it
cost to have them made.
Being a race engine it was probably rebuilt after every race meeting so
it would be lucky to run more than 2 hours between rebuilds.
The team he has working for him have built engines that have won world
championships so they seem to have a bit of a clue:-)
From: John_H on 4 Sep 2009 22:07
>I know a bloke who has an original WLA that he bought ex Australian Army as
>surplus in 1971, and it's in "as disposed" original condition complete with
>all it's markings and hardware. It was his daily drive for a number of years
>until he got knocked off it by some car driver which then saw it relegated
>to the garage while he switched to car driving. He still has it (or at least
>he did the last time I saw him about 5 years ago) and while he doesn't ride
>the thing anymore you can drag it out of the shed and kick it over and it'll
>fire straight up and run pretty well.
>I've offered to buy it a few times but he's reluctant to sell it for
>sentimental reasons. Maybe it's time for another offer.
My old man had a soft spot for such things, along with sv Ford V8's,
which is probably why I didn't. He was always on the lookout for the
ohv model from the same era as the WLA. Mighta been called a
"knucklehead", which always struck me as a fairly apt description for
anyone who'd want to own one. :)
Any he came across always had a higher asking price than he was
prepared to pay. That would've been around the mid 1960's.
Don't remember exactly when the last WLA's were auctioned off by Dept
of Supply but a few of the sheep stations in SA (where I was at the
time) used to buy them in bulk lots. Guess there'd still be droves of
'em quietly rusting away in some out of the way spot... unless those
who collect such things have gotten really keen.
From: Noddy on 5 Sep 2009 00:08
"John_H" <john4721(a)inbox.com> wrote in message
> My old man had a soft spot for such things, along with sv Ford V8's,
> which is probably why I didn't. He was always on the lookout for the
> ohv model from the same era as the WLA. Mighta been called a
> "knucklehead", which always struck me as a fairly apt description for
> anyone who'd want to own one. :)
Yeah, the "Knucklehead" was their first OHV engine.
> Any he came across always had a higher asking price than he was
> prepared to pay. That would've been around the mid 1960's.
Got me buggered as to why HD's fetch the kind of money they do. I mean I
like them, but I also think they're incredibly over-priced for what they
Last time I saw this bloke I offered him 8 grand cash for his old Walla, and
I would have been happy to get it for that, but it obviously wasn't enough.
I'd probably go to 15 today but that would be my limit. My interest in the
things is purely from an historical point of view, and that would make me
pay more than what I would for other things, but I'm not fanatical eough
about it to pay the stupid money some people seem to.
> Don't remember exactly when the last WLA's were auctioned off by Dept
> of Supply but a few of the sheep stations in SA (where I was at the
> time) used to buy them in bulk lots. Guess there'd still be droves of
> 'em quietly rusting away in some out of the way spot... unless those
> who collect such things have gotten really keen.
If you come across any let me know :)
From: Noddy on 5 Sep 2009 00:24
<user(a)domain.invalid> wrote in message
> As it was a road car I simply can't see anyone running twin dhoe'S on the
> street as a single weber was enough fun with car mods to make it fit
I ran twin DCOE Webers on a couple of road going Mini's (or the same system
on a couple of different cars to be more precise) simply because the engines
were in such a state of tune that they benefitted from them compared to a
single one. It was no different to any other mod like fitting a larger turbo
or a bigger cam. It made more power with the twin carbs than it did with a
single, and it did so mainly due to the better manifolding.
Making a single Weber work on a Mini engine is hard work due mainly to the
limitations of the inleft manifolds. The necessary bends and curves of the
various manifolds make feeding a siamesed inlet port a difficult task in
terms of even fuel distrubution and burning across all the cylinders. Using
twin carbs didn't give you a poofteenth extra in terms of airflow as you
were still only using the same amount of venturii (and of the exact same
size), but you had a "straight shot" into the port with the air/fuel mix
that promoted better distribution and ultimately more even cylinder firing.
Essentially, you eliminated the problem of the engine running "fat" on 1 and
4, and lean on 2 and 3 as a great many single carb versions did.
In the days when I used to mess around with Mini's I reckon I knew maybe 4
or 5 blokes who had similar systems on road going Mini engines, and there's
one who lives not far from me who I haven't seen in some time but I would
expect that if I popped into his place today there'd be a road going Mini so
equipped parked in his garage.
> so no matter who ran it on the track a simple yes or no it would pass a
> roadworthy or police inspection will suffice
On such a car (mid 1960's Mini) twin Webers would be perfectly legal as
they're not subject to modern day emissions laws and there's no particular
regulations that limit the amount of carburettors you're allowed to run.
So, the short answer would be Yes, it's perfectly legal.