From: Silk on
On 27/05/2010 10:01, GT wrote:
> "Silk"<me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:htjmhu$l17$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>> On 26/05/2010 11:12, GT wrote:
>>> "Silk"<me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:htb6n0$ash$2(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>>>> On 23/05/2010 09:56, GT wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The hose length is controlled by law - it cannot touch the ground when
>>>>> the
>>>>> nozzel is 'parked'.
>>>>
>>>> I think you may have made that up. I've seen plenty that drag on the
>>>> ground.
>>>
>>> Please feel free to 'think' what you like.
>>
>> As someone who uses garage forecourts more than most, I think I'm in a
>> good position to report the facts. There are plenty of forecourts where
>> the hoses are allowed to drag on the floor, protected by the previously
>> mentioned rings. Parked or otherwise.
>
> Well OK then. As you say, you do use forecourts more than the people who
> work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, so we bow to your greater wisdom - the
> law should be changed to match your opinion.
8 hours a day, 5 days a week in the same one doesn't count. I visit
hundreds all over the country. The rings are rubber and they're there to
stop the hose chaffing on the floor - it's called bloody obvious.
From: Ret. on
Adrian wrote:
> boltar2003(a)boltar.world gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
>
>>>>> Why oh why do they do this? So far as I am concerned there is no
>>>>> advantage
>
>>>> Simple - because they look good.
>
>>> Not quite that simple.
>>>
>>> It's primarily because that's what customers - real, live buyers -
>>> say they want in customer clinics, focus groups, and other similar
>>> exercises which the manufacturers base their marketing decisions on.
>
>> And why do they say they want them?
>
> A variety of reasons. But you miss my point. My point was that "they
> look good" - taken in isolation - is not why manufacturers do it.
> It's because customers want them to. It gets sales. It's profitable.
>
> If customers didn't give a toss, and it wasn't profitable, it wouldn't
> matter HOW good something looked. Or didn't look.

Bit like why some motorists insist on sticking 'spoilers' on the boots of
their car. Bearing in mind all modern cars undergo lengthy wind-tunnel
testing to ensure minimum wind drag, what *is* the point? Chavvy.

--
Kev

From: Adrian on
Mike P <mikewpearson1(a)gmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

>> £7k off the list price, including trade-in on my car (which, at 5 years
>> old, was around £2.5k)

> You're joking????
>
> £2.5k at 5 years old? I didn't realise a Rover 75 was a large French
> executive saloon, or depreciated like one at least!

I got a good deal on my XM when I bought it - I paid £4500 at 5yo.

So the 75's actually far, far worse.

Oh - and the first C6s are now approaching 5yo - yet I've not even heard
of one for less than £10k so far.
From: Mike P on
On May 28, 3:57 pm, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Mike P <mikewpears...(a)gmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying:
>
> >> £7k off the list price, including trade-in on my car (which, at 5 years
> >> old, was around £2.5k)
> > You're joking????
>
> > £2.5k at 5 years old? I didn't realise a Rover 75 was a large French
> > executive saloon, or depreciated like one at least!
>
> I got a good deal on my XM when I bought it - I paid £4500 at 5yo.
>
> So the 75's actually far, far worse.

So not only does it appear to be more unreliable than most French
cars, going off the survey Kev cherry picked, it depreciates faster
too! I'm impressed.

> Oh - and the first C6s are now approaching 5yo - yet I've not even heard
> of one for less than £10k so far.

Yes, I've noticed that too. I'm most disappointed. Even (good) XMs
don't seem to be falling in value any more.

Mike P
From: Adrian on
Mike P <mike_w_pearson(a)hotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

>> Oh - and the first C6s are now approaching 5yo - yet I've not even
>> heard of one for less than £10k so far.

> Yes, I've noticed that too. I'm most disappointed. Even (good) XMs don't
> seem to be falling in value any more.

They're starting to go back up, quite rapidly.

C5s would be the bargain currently, if they were actually any good.