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From: Andy Dingley on 24 Jul 2010 11:03 On 24 July, 14:46, Jim K <jk989...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > CO2 can't be used for MIG, > > bollox! What do you think the "I" in MIG stands for? If you're using CO2, it's by definition not MIG and just MAGS (and so works rather differently).
From: Jim K on 24 Jul 2010 11:42 On 24 July, 16:03, Andy Dingley <ding...(a)codesmiths.com> wrote: > On 24 July, 14:46, Jim K <jk989...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > CO2 can't be used for MIG, > > > bollox! > > What do you think the "I" in MIG stands for? If you're using CO2, > it's by definition not MIG and just MAGS (and so works rather > differently). strewth... but you do agree you can weld steel together using CO2 as gas in what's commonly known as a "MIG welding machine"?? http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/welding-gas.htm Cheers Jim K
From: Ozie on 24 Jul 2010 11:32 Well following advice on the welding forum i bought a Clark Pro90 today it came with a Co2 bottle and i bought an Argon/Co2 mix bottle. I will practice with both of these before i decide which large size bottle to buy as there is such a large difference in price. On the way home i was passing the local fire station which was having an open day, they were cutting the roof of an old Astra, so i managed to get the roof and bonnet to take home for welding practice. Thanks for everyone�s comments, although their still seems to be a Co2- Argon/o2 divide if anyones interested i will report back how the Novice managed. -- Oz
From: Sla#s on 24 Jul 2010 12:43 Cicero wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:12:13 +0100, Fredxx wrote: <SNIP> >... you might just as well use oxy-acetylene, though >> I suspect it's not allowed in a domestic environment. > ============================================================================== > > I don't think there are any restrictions on home use of oxy-acetylene. > BOC Portapak (with outright sale of bottles) has been available since > early 1970s. I bought mine about 1974 and learned to weld with it. I > also upgraded to larger bottles without any restrictions except that > they were rented rather than bought. > > It's actually more versatile than other welding methods for many > purposes since it can be used to form and shape metals as you go > after initial tacking. > I agree - that's exactly what I did and used the kit at home for many years without any problems. I always used my home address when getting new cylinders and BOC never queried it. I re-silled and A-panelled a Mini with it - including using lead filler - a great learning experience :-) However the main problem could be your home insurance - welding cylinders within a certain distance will invalidate it! If your garage is attached don't risk it but if it is at the other end of your garden check the distance. Slatts
From: asahartz on 24 Jul 2010 12:48
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:53:01 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave(a)davenoise.co.uk> wrote: >In article <8au5i1FnpdU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > newshound <newshound(a)fairadsl.co.uk> wrote: >> I liked the look of his mini portapak; didn't feel I could justify the >> cost of gas welding kit until I saw that. Obviously it would get a bit >> expensive for significant car welding. > >Thought gas welding wasn't as suitable for car stuff (thin) due to >distortion? Mig keeps the heat more localised? A skilled gas welder can weld car bodies. I saw a resto on a Jag once where this had been done; they said too that the weld bead is not as hard as with MIG so it could be planished flat with a hammer rather than doing so much grinding. The old workshop manuals recommend placing wet asbestos around the weld to contain the heat! -- asahartz woz ere |