From: Brent on
On 2010-06-30, Nate Nagel <njnagel(a)roosters.net> wrote:
> On 06/29/2010 05:47 PM, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:11:53 -0700, His Highness the TibetanMonkey,
>> Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> This is not an exaggeration. Think of the respect dogs get, where few
>>> drivers would push them around, and you will see how twisted and blind the
>>> ATTITUDE toward cyclists is.
>>
>> Dogs are dogs. As such, their thinking is limited. That said, when it
>> comes to using or crossing the roadway, I have seen some dogs that were
>> smarter than cyclists. (dogs don't ride two abreast in the middle of the
>> road on a blind corner...)
>>
>> Why do you have the Noam Chomsky group in the follow up...?
>>
>
> I agree with Hachi... dogs are only as smart as their masters and how
> well they've been trained. Cyclists, on the other hand, presumably sat
> through driver's ed and know what a "STOP" sign means, unlike the
> spandex-clad weenie that I just saw not an hour ago...

Or the driver I saw just a few minutes ago... I'm biking going 22mph in
a 25mph zone. Driver races up on me at 35mph passes, slows to about
15mph for the stop sign and keeps on going through a left turn.

The vehicle simply doesn't matter, people drive and bike largely the
same way.




From: Nate Nagel on
On 06/29/2010 09:54 PM, Brent wrote:
> On 2010-06-30, Nate Nagel<njnagel(a)roosters.net> wrote:
>> On 06/29/2010 05:47 PM, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:11:53 -0700, His Highness the TibetanMonkey,
>>> Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is not an exaggeration. Think of the respect dogs get, where few
>>>> drivers would push them around, and you will see how twisted and blind the
>>>> ATTITUDE toward cyclists is.
>>>
>>> Dogs are dogs. As such, their thinking is limited. That said, when it
>>> comes to using or crossing the roadway, I have seen some dogs that were
>>> smarter than cyclists. (dogs don't ride two abreast in the middle of the
>>> road on a blind corner...)
>>>
>>> Why do you have the Noam Chomsky group in the follow up...?
>>>
>>
>> I agree with Hachi... dogs are only as smart as their masters and how
>> well they've been trained. Cyclists, on the other hand, presumably sat
>> through driver's ed and know what a "STOP" sign means, unlike the
>> spandex-clad weenie that I just saw not an hour ago...
>
> Or the driver I saw just a few minutes ago... I'm biking going 22mph in
> a 25mph zone. Driver races up on me at 35mph passes, slows to about
> 15mph for the stop sign and keeps on going through a left turn.
>
> The vehicle simply doesn't matter, people drive and bike largely the
> same way.


At least around here, the drivers are slow and stupid. (I know that's
not the case where you live.) The cyclists stop for nothing and are stupid.

nate


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From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock on
On Jun 29, 5:47 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:11:53 -0700, His Highness the TibetanMonkey,
> Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>
>
>
> > This is not an exaggeration. Think of the respect dogs get, where few
> > drivers would push them around, and you will see how twisted and blind the
> > ATTITUDE toward cyclists is.
>
> Dogs are dogs. As such, their thinking is limited. That said, when it
> comes to using or crossing the roadway, I have seen some dogs that were
> smarter than cyclists. (dogs don't ride two abreast in the middle of the
> road on a blind corner...)
>
> Why do you have the Noam Chomsky group in the follow up...?

Chomsky will be in the revolution too, I assume.

But why do assume this guy was doing something wrong. He was a guy
riding alone, no lycra suit, not a homeless...

Just another terrorist act by the driver.
From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock on
On Jun 29, 10:28pm, Nate Nagel <njna...(a)roosters.net> wrote:
> On 06/29/2010 09:54 PM, Brent wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 2010-06-30, Nate Nagel<njna...(a)roosters.net> wrote:
> >> On 06/29/2010 05:47 PM, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:11:53 -0700, His Highness the TibetanMonkey,
> >>> Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>
> >>>> This is not an exaggeration. Think of the respect dogs get, where few
> >>>> drivers would push them around, and you will see how twisted and blind the
> >>>> ATTITUDE toward cyclists is.
>
> >>> Dogs are dogs. As such, their thinking is limited. That said, when it
> >>> comes to using or crossing the roadway, I have seen some dogs that were
> >>> smarter than cyclists. (dogs don't ride two abreast in the middle of the
> >>> road on a blind corner...)
>
> >>> Why do you have the Noam Chomsky group in the follow up...?
>
> >> I agree with Hachi... dogs are only as smart as their masters and how
> >> well they've been trained. Cyclists, on the other hand, presumably sat
> >> through driver's ed and know what a "STOP" sign means, unlike the
> >> spandex-clad weenie that I just saw not an hour ago...
>
> > Or the driver I saw just a few minutes ago... I'm biking going 22mph in
> > a 25mph zone. Driver races up on me at 35mph passes, slows to about
> > 15mph for the stop sign and keeps on going through a left turn.
>
> > The vehicle simply doesn't matter, people drive and bike largely the
> > same way.
>
> At least around here, the drivers are slow and stupid. (I know that's
> not the case where you live.) The cyclists stop for nothing and are stupid.
>

Around here they are both, very fast or very slow. Everything goes
except that the cops may give you ticket for speeding.

From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock on
On Jun 30, 2:28 am, Jim A <j...(a)averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On 06/30/2010 03:44 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
>
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> > Whipping is a proven method well beyond the arsenal of the Nazis.
>
> > But let's say we give a treat to the driver and tell him, "Good boy,
> > good boy."
>
> > I mean, there got to be some kind of punishment/reward for drivers, or
> > else we get so many wild beasts.
>
> ISTR one of the police forces here in the UK briefly tried a scheme
> where they stopped drivers for good driving and gave them a badge or
> somesuch.
>
> It was quite a few years ago and I haven't heard of them doing anything
> similar since, so I guess it didn't go down too well!
>
> --www.slowbicyclemovement.org- enjoy the ride

Maybe it worked too well. Remember, they are after your money more
than anything. At least on this side of the Atlantic. ;)

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