From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On Tue, 4 May 2010 10:54:20 +0100, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>And why do lorries choose to wait for roadworks before they break down?

you only hear about those!
--
Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: Mizter T on

On May 4, 10:54 am, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVETHISjack...(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> [snip]
> In the last few months, that old favourite, the Dartford tunnel, seems
> to be having a lot of breakdowns and lorries getting jammed. [A few
> months ago, wasn't there fire which meant that it had to be closed for
> nearly a week?]

You're getting muddled with the Blackwall tunnel - the northbound bore
was closed for repairs after a fire last November for a few days,
though I can't remember how long it lasted in the end though.

See:
<http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23777182-.do>
and
http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/london/hi/people_and_places/newsid_8385000/8385980.stm
From: Basil Jet on
On 04/05/2010 10:12, boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote:
> On the radio yet again this morning - an accident at Clacket Lane services.
> Is there something particularly bad about the way the exits roads to this
> service station have been designed? I've driven that part of the M25 more times
> than is probably good for me but I haven't noticed anything unusual that
> would give rise to so many accidents but clearly something is confusing some
> motorists. Does anyone have any ideas?

My first thought is that "Clackett Lane Services" is media slang for
"the stretch between J5 and J6", and that these are the two junctions
which are furthest apart, so if the number of accidents per mile is
constant, you would expect to hear "Clackett Lane Services" a lot.
From: Batman55 on
<boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
news:hroodq$o3u$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
> On the radio yet again this morning - an accident at Clacket Lane
> services.
> Is there something particularly bad about the way the exits roads to this
> service station have been designed? I've driven that part of the M25 more
> times
> than is probably good for me but I haven't noticed anything unusual that
> would give rise to so many accidents but clearly something is confusing
> some
> motorists. Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> B2003
>
Is it just because you know the name well, that whenever anything happens,
it stands out? "Accident near/between Junction X/Y" isn't so memorable. Are
there any stats available to us South London morons which would support your
supposition. I believe that area is subject to more fog than some so that
may be a factor (although presumably not in this case). The other
alternative is that people are so keen to get away from Clackets Lane, they
don't look where they are going!

MaxB


From: loopy livernose on

<boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
news:hroodq$o3u$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
> On the radio yet again this morning - an accident at Clacket Lane
> services.
> Is there something particularly bad about the way the exits roads to this
> service station have been designed? I've driven that part of the M25 more
> times
> than is probably good for me but I haven't noticed anything unusual that
> would give rise to so many accidents but clearly something is confusing
> some
> motorists. Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> B2003
>

I have seen several caused by/around the services themselves (well the
location and id10t drivers.). there are the ones on the slip road out
(which is (generally) pretty short).. and so many drivers expect a gap to
be created for them.. on the entry way caused by, of course, the last
minute 3rd lane tw@s who drive across the lanes barely making the slip
road..

but its also a very crowded but very fast (until an accident is there) part
of the M25..

it is also one of the most poorly maintained bits of motorway (IMHO) with
potholes and truck ruts and in rain I've never known a bit of MWay so bad
for spray.. (seems to be worse than most but no idea why).

but generally its because of drivers being tw(a)s..




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