Why isn't the Tea Party protesting BP?
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From: Bob Cooper on 12 Jul 2010 19:29 In article <i1g6s1$fil$1(a)panix2.panix.com>, kludge(a)panix.com says... > > Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote: > >The US government is indeed set up to go slow and steady, but Executive > >Orders are the outlet for stuff that absolutely, positively needs to get > >done now. > > > >Either Obama is the supreme opportunist, or he's an astonishing bumbler. I > >vote for both, actually. > > If you were president, and you had the ability to issue executive orders > and the ability to request funding from Congress, what would you do? > > If I were president, my first thought would be to keep my mouth shut and > distance myself from the disaster as thoroughly as possible. You'd be very wrong. > But if it > were too late to do that, what would you do? > --scott Military command coordination of all Gulf efforts. General Honore would probably do as Command, but there are others. Bring Schwartzkoff out of retirement to do it. You get the idea. Conscript all leading oil experts to work with and advise the military command as to action in killing the well, use or non-use of dispersants, skimming oil, and strategies to keep it offshore. It's their patriotic duty. Local governments and their input go into the mix. High visibility/transparency with press conferences, etc. Over kill on all resources. NOBODY would be able to slam the effort. Then of course you bill BP for all of it. What's the problem?
From: Tegger on 12 Jul 2010 20:27 kludge(a)panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote in news:i1g6s1$fil$1(a)panix2.panix.com: > Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote: >>The US government is indeed set up to go slow and steady, but >>Executive Orders are the outlet for stuff that absolutely, positively >>needs to get done now. >> >>Either Obama is the supreme opportunist, or he's an astonishing >>bumbler. I vote for both, actually. > > If you were president, and you had the ability to issue executive > orders and the ability to request funding from Congress, what would > you do? First thing I'd have done is to have told the Dutch that they had full approval to get in there like they'd asked to do, and slurp up all that oil as fast as they could, and stay there until we Americans found our own solution, or until the leak was plugged, whichever came first. Then I'd have taken them up on their offer to construct sand barriers to keep any oil that might reach shore from actually contaminating anything on land. My first concern would have been to keep the thing from becoming a disaster. But then I'm not a posturing, preening, self-important twit who has never held a real job in his life. > > If I were president, my first thought would be to keep my mouth shut > and distance myself from the disaster as thoroughly as possible. That's impossible. Offshore oil wells are all on federal territory. Plus the feds actively solicited bids for drilling where the leak is right now. > But if it were too late to do that, what would you do? At one time it /wasn't/ too late. That was exactly the time the Dutch made their offer(s), and exactly the time Obama's administration said "no thanks" to the Dutch offer. -- Tegger
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 12 Jul 2010 20:46 On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 19:01:21 -0400, Scott Dorsey wrote: > Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote: >>The US government is indeed set up to go slow and steady, but Executive >>Orders are the outlet for stuff that absolutely, positively needs to get >>done now. >> >>Either Obama is the supreme opportunist, or he's an astonishing bumbler. >>I vote for both, actually. > > If you were president, and you had the ability to issue executive orders > and the ability to request funding from Congress, what would you do? I would have waived the Jones Act and allowed the foreign skimmers in to see what they could do. > > If I were president, my first thought would be to keep my mouth shut and > distance myself from the disaster as thoroughly as possible. But if it > were too late to do that, what would you do? --scott Brian Williams on NBC Nightly News, two weeks ago (from memory, mind you) "All the advisers told him not to touch this or he would own it. The other night he touched it..." Amazing how he still doesn't "own" it. He's not really black...that's Teflon...
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 12 Jul 2010 20:51 On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:27:17 +0000, Tegger wrote: > kludge(a)panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote in > news:i1g6s1$fil$1(a)panix2.panix.com: > >> Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote: >>>The US government is indeed set up to go slow and steady, but Executive >>>Orders are the outlet for stuff that absolutely, positively needs to get >>>done now. >>> >>>Either Obama is the supreme opportunist, or he's an astonishing bumbler. >>>I vote for both, actually. >> >> If you were president, and you had the ability to issue executive orders >> and the ability to request funding from Congress, what would you do? > > > > > First thing I'd have done is to have told the Dutch that they had full > approval to get in there like they'd asked to do, and slurp up all that > oil as fast as they could, and stay there until we Americans found our own > solution, or until the leak was plugged, whichever came first. > > Then I'd have taken them up on their offer to construct sand barriers to > keep any oil that might reach shore from actually contaminating anything > on land. > > My first concern would have been to keep the thing from becoming a > disaster. But then I'm not a posturing, preening, self-important twit who > has never held a real job in his life. Will you become a US Citizen, please?!?!?! ;) > > > > > >> If I were president, my first thought would be to keep my mouth shut and >> distance myself from the disaster as thoroughly as possible. > > > > That's impossible. Offshore oil wells are all on federal territory. Plus > the feds actively solicited bids for drilling where the leak is right now. > > > >> But if it were too late to do that, what would you do? > > > At one time it /wasn't/ too late. That was exactly the time the Dutch made > their offer(s), and exactly the time Obama's administration said "no > thanks" to the Dutch offer. Ah, there you go, saying the Dutch could actually have *done* something to make a difference. Of course, as someone in the other group said, "You can't prove it would have made a difference!" Nope. I can't So I guess that means we just sit on our hands and try not to "own" it... And all the out of work shrimp fishers asked for permission to set up an artifical barrier reef. The answer they got? "The US Army Corps of Engineers has to do an Environmental Impact Study on anything erected in the Gulf." Here's your 'study': there is oil all over the place. How's that for an 'environmental impact'? No one wanted to touch this, and it shows.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 12 Jul 2010 20:52
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:29:43 -0500, Bob Cooper wrote: >> But if it >> were too late to do that, what would you do? --scott > > Military command coordination of all Gulf efforts. General Honore would > probably do as Command, but there are others. Bring Schwartzkoff out of > retirement to do it. You get the idea. First thing you've said about this I can entirely agree with. |