From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 12 Jul 2010 20:52
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:50:38 -0500, hls wrote:
> "Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> It has still been noted that the skimmers work better when the oil is
>> fresh than after it has become a 'sheen'. If Obama had accepted the
>> help, chances are a lot less oil would have reached the beaches.
> Hachi, when it comes up from a mile deep, it will be in relatively thin
> on the surface. Just a few ounces of oil can cause a sheen that can be
> seen for
> MILES by government helicopters.
> We are talking about relatively thin layers, many many square miles of
> This is a difficult task for any technology.
I think this is something we can all agree on! ;)
From: cuhulin on 12 Jul 2010 21:28
Bomb Explodes at Oil Executive's Home
It is getting rough out there.
From: Tegger on 12 Jul 2010 21:51
wrote in news:jMO_n.28523$dx7.15213(a)newsfe21.iad:
> And all the out of work shrimp fishers asked for permission to set up
> an artifical barrier reef. The answer they got? "The US Army Corps of
> Engineers has to do an Environmental Impact Study on anything erected
> in the Gulf."
The shrimp fishermen went ahead and did it anyway! They originally laid a
lot more boom than the ACE.
> Here's your 'study': there is oil all over the place. How's that for
> an 'environmental impact'?
> No one wanted to touch this, and it shows.
You mean "Obama" didn't want to touch this. When originally faced with the
issue, he froze. And stayed frozen for a good long while. When he finally
unfroze, he scurried directly in front of the cameras, and pointed his
finger at BP while declaring, "I'M IN CHARGE!"
I was never a fan of G.W. Bush, but just imagine the bloodthirsty screaming
that would have been aimed at him if he'd been president when this
happened. Remember Katrina? This would have been /way/ worse. But Obama?
Well, he gets a gentle pass.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 12 Jul 2010 22:20
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 01:51:34 +0000, Tegger wrote:
> I was never a fan of G.W. Bush, but just imagine the bloodthirsty
> screaming that would have been aimed at him if he'd been president when
> this happened. Remember Katrina? This would have been /way/ worse. But
> Obama? Well, he gets a gentle pass.
Exactly what I was going to say when Bob Cooper comes back at my last
response to his post.
And, as far as Dutch skimmers making a difference in the early days? Well,
we'll never know, will we?
Yup. If Bush had dragged his heels over this the way Obungler has, it'd be
all we'd be hearing about.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 12 Jul 2010 22:23
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:03:58 -0500, Bob Cooper wrote:
>> But that's OK Bob. We all know the World is against Obama. You just keep
>> your head in the sand.
> You may have noticed I said Obama's response was on the edge of being a
OK. I think we can agree on this.
> To be clear, IMO Obama did a bad job, and failed in leadership on this. I
> said in another post how it should have been handled. But there's much we
> don't yet know about resources how were obtained, timing of same,
> transport logistics, on-site logistics, etc, etc.
I'm afraid that any effectiveness they may have been brought about by
deploying early is something we will never know.