From: boltar2003 on
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:11:36 -0000
"Mortimer" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
><boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
>news:hofgjt$afd$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:09:19 +0000
>> Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> From time to time, on a motorway, I've seen cars up ahead with
>>>absolutely nothing in front of them - and suddenly their brake lights
>>>come on. Weird! Why, oh why, oh why?
>>
>> Idiots paranoid about not going over the speed limit who are apparently
>> unaware of engine braking.
>
>It *may* be that the car was going at 70 mph and has come to a slight
>downhill gradient (*) which engine braking alone (ie coming off the power)
>is not sufficient to keep in check. In that case, gentle footbrake may be
>needed if the driver sees that despite lifting his foot off the throttle the
>speed is still creeping over 70.

Possibly. Though it would have to be a steep incline since at 70 in most
cars the combination of engine braking and air resistence is more than enough
to slow it down if you come off the throttle.

B2003


From: Ian Jackson on
In message <hoflag$jkg$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, boltar2003(a)boltar.world
writes
>On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:11:36 -0000
>"Mortimer" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>><boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
>>news:hofgjt$afd$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:09:19 +0000
>>> Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> From time to time, on a motorway, I've seen cars up ahead with
>>>>absolutely nothing in front of them - and suddenly their brake lights
>>>>come on. Weird! Why, oh why, oh why?
>>>
>>> Idiots paranoid about not going over the speed limit who are apparently
>>> unaware of engine braking.
>>
>>It *may* be that the car was going at 70 mph and has come to a slight
>>downhill gradient (*) which engine braking alone (ie coming off the power)
>>is not sufficient to keep in check. In that case, gentle footbrake may be
>>needed if the driver sees that despite lifting his foot off the throttle the
>>speed is still creeping over 70.
>
>Possibly. Though it would have to be a steep incline since at 70 in most
>cars the combination of engine braking and air resistence is more than enough
>to slow it down if you come off the throttle.
>
One HECK of a steep incline indeed! [Should that not be decline?] No,
I've seen brakes applied on 'normal' motorways - sometimes in the middle
lane - without any obvious reason for doing so (and certainly no speed
cameras in sight).
--
Ian
From: alan.holmes on

"Bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 25/03/2010 08:58, Mortimer wrote:
>> "Bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:810m52Fl03U1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>> On 24/03/2010 22:13, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
>>>> Bod explained :
>>>>> I amuse myself doing that sometimes on motorways. It's just
>>>>> astonishing seeing brake lights going on and off constantly.
>>>>
>>>> Often a major part of it is the 'comfort braking'. They are already
>>>> doing a very safe comfortable speed for a bend, but they brake.
>>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> It probably sounds petty, but most drivers going over a hump back
>>> bridge around here, brake just before the brow. All they had to do,
>>> was drive just a few mile an hour less and the braking would be
>>> unnecessary.
>>>
>>> Am I getting older and wiser or just old and grumpy? :)
>>
>> My mum used to criticise me when I first passed my test for not always
>> braking on bends. It didn't matter what speed I approached, she always
>> wanted me to brake. I tested her once: I approached a bend at 50 and
>> slowed to 40 - that was fine. But on another day I approached at 35 and
>> didn't brake - that was bad. Work that one out!
> >
> >
> The logic of a woman :)

You forgot the 'i' in front of logic!

Alan

>
> Bod


From: alan.holmes on

"Bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 25/03/2010 10:47, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> In message <810ratFgh5U2(a)mid.individual.net>, Bod
>> <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> writes
>>> On 25/03/2010 10:10, Mr Benn wrote:
>>>> "Bod"<bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:80vforFiahU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>>
>>>>> I amuse myself doing that sometimes on motorways. It's just
>>>>> astonishing
>>>>> seeing brake lights going on and off constantly.
>>>>
>>>> I call it "comfort braking".
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeh and I would bet, that most of them don't realise they are doing it
>>> unnecessarily and wearing out their brakes and stoplight bulbs, to boot.
>>>
>> It is possibly an over-application of the precautionary measure of
>> 'covering your brakes', ie the anticipation of the possible need to
>> brake, and moving your foot from the accelerator pedal to the brake
>> pedal.
>>
>> The fact that the brake lights of the car in front have come on probably
>> doesn't mean that significant pressure has been applied to the pedal -
>> but it can be very annoying all the same!
> >
> >
>
> It all boils down to two elementary things though. They are not leaving
> enough gap and they are not anticipating properly.

No, it just means they have their foot on the brake pedal when it is not
required!


>
> Bod


From: alan.holmes on

<boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
news:hofgjt$afd$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:09:19 +0000
> Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> From time to time, on a motorway, I've seen cars up ahead with
>>absolutely nothing in front of them - and suddenly their brake lights
>>come on. Weird! Why, oh why, oh why?
>
> Idiots paranoid about not going over the speed limit who are apparently
> unaware of engine braking.

No it is the stupidity of resting their foot on the brake pedal when it is
not neccessary.



>
> B2003
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