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From: Ian Jackson on 26 Mar 2010 17:54 In message <814ob9Fb6vU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> writes >On 26/03/2010 21:39, Ian Jackson wrote: >> In message <1jfzcw8.a7axnf1dwjtujN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth >> <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> writes >>> Bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> > >>>> To me, using one's left foot for braking in an auto, is frankly absurd >>>> and unnatural. Especially if one has spent some years previously driving >>>> a manual. >>> >>> <shrug> >>> >>> So what? You're a prat, and you appear to have the experience of a six >>> year old without the imagination of a child. >>> >>> >>> Left foot braking in an automatic has its place. It's one way of keeping >>> up revs and of ensuring that one is in the right gear for any corner. >> >> If you need a lower gear, why not do the obvious thing and select a >> lower gear (exactly like you do in a manual car)? > >> >> > Yes, or simply use the kickdown. > You wouldn't want to do that if you were also wanting to slow you down a little. You would probably go faster and, as soon as you 'eased off the gas', you would change up again. -- Ian
From: Bod on 26 Mar 2010 18:19 On 26/03/2010 21:54, Ian Jackson wrote: > In message <814ob9Fb6vU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Bod > <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> writes >> On 26/03/2010 21:39, Ian Jackson wrote: >>> In message <1jfzcw8.a7axnf1dwjtujN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth >>> <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> writes >>>> Bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> > >>>>> To me, using one's left foot for braking in an auto, is frankly absurd >>>>> and unnatural. Especially if one has spent some years previously >>>>> driving >>>>> a manual. >>>> >>>> <shrug> >>>> >>>> So what? You're a prat, and you appear to have the experience of a six >>>> year old without the imagination of a child. >>>> >>>> >>>> Left foot braking in an automatic has its place. It's one way of >>>> keeping >>>> up revs and of ensuring that one is in the right gear for any corner. >>> >>> If you need a lower gear, why not do the obvious thing and select a >>> lower gear (exactly like you do in a manual car)? >> >>> >>> >> Yes, or simply use the kickdown. >> > You wouldn't want to do that if you were also wanting to slow you down a > little. You would probably go faster and, as soon as you 'eased off the > gas', you would change up again. > > What's wrong with simply pressing the brake to slow down and then kickdown when you need the power. That's the way most people drive autos. Bod
From: Steve Firth on 26 Mar 2010 18:19 Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote: > If you need a lower gear, why not do the obvious thing and select a > lower gear (exactly like you do in a manual car)? Because many automatics don't offer the same control of gear as a Tiptronic.
From: Ian Jackson on 26 Mar 2010 18:42 In message <814q7qFo50U1(a)mid.individual.net>, Bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> writes >On 26/03/2010 21:54, Ian Jackson wrote: >> In message <814ob9Fb6vU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Bod >> <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> writes >>> On 26/03/2010 21:39, Ian Jackson wrote: >>>> In message <1jfzcw8.a7axnf1dwjtujN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth >>>> <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> writes >>>>> Bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> To me, using one's left foot for braking in an auto, is frankly absurd >>>>>> and unnatural. Especially if one has spent some years previously >>>>>> driving >>>>>> a manual. >>>>> >>>>> <shrug> >>>>> >>>>> So what? You're a prat, and you appear to have the experience of a six >>>>> year old without the imagination of a child. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Left foot braking in an automatic has its place. It's one way of >>>>> keeping >>>>> up revs and of ensuring that one is in the right gear for any corner. >>>> >>>> If you need a lower gear, why not do the obvious thing and select a >>>> lower gear (exactly like you do in a manual car)? >>> >>>> >>>> >>> Yes, or simply use the kickdown. >>> >> You wouldn't want to do that if you were also wanting to slow you down a >> little. You would probably go faster and, as soon as you 'eased off the >> gas', you would change up again. >> >> > > What's wrong with simply pressing the brake to slow down and then >kickdown when you need the power. That's the way most people drive >autos. > I expect they do! But, unless I've misunderstood, what is being suggested is forcing a change-down by simultaneously braking (left foot) and keeping the accelerator pressed (right foot). I don't think that's a technique usually used for 'normal' driving. -- Ian
From: Ian Jackson on 26 Mar 2010 18:47
In message <1jfzf9r.1kkz8om1b3ha6oN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> writes >Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >> If you need a lower gear, why not do the obvious thing and select a >> lower gear (exactly like you do in a manual car)? > >Because many automatics don't offer the same control of gear as a >Tiptronic. I confess I'm no authority on automatic cars, but, on the relatively few occasions when I've driven one, I've had no problems 'using' the gearbox to the best advantage. -- Ian |