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From: Bod on 26 Mar 2010 18:49 On 26/03/2010 22:42, Ian Jackson wrote: > In message <814q7qFo50U1(a)mid.individual.net>, Bod > <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> writes >> On 26/03/2010 21:54, Ian Jackson wrote: >>> In message <814ob9Fb6vU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Bod >>> <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> writes >>>> On 26/03/2010 21:39, Ian Jackson wrote: >>>>> In message <1jfzcw8.a7axnf1dwjtujN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth >>>>> <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> writes >>>>>> Bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> To me, using one's left foot for braking in an auto, is frankly >>>>>>> absurd >>>>>>> and unnatural. Especially if one has spent some years previously >>>>>>> driving >>>>>>> a manual. >>>>>> >>>>>> <shrug> >>>>>> >>>>>> So what? You're a prat, and you appear to have the experience of a >>>>>> six >>>>>> year old without the imagination of a child. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Left foot braking in an automatic has its place. It's one way of >>>>>> keeping >>>>>> up revs and of ensuring that one is in the right gear for any corner. >>>>> >>>>> If you need a lower gear, why not do the obvious thing and select a >>>>> lower gear (exactly like you do in a manual car)? >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Yes, or simply use the kickdown. >>>> >>> You wouldn't want to do that if you were also wanting to slow you down a >>> little. You would probably go faster and, as soon as you 'eased off the >>> gas', you would change up again. >>> >>> >> >> What's wrong with simply pressing the brake to slow down and then >> kickdown when you need the power. That's the way most people drive autos. >> > I expect they do! > > But, unless I've misunderstood, what is being suggested is forcing a > change-down by simultaneously braking (left foot) and keeping the > accelerator pressed (right foot). I don't think that's a technique > usually used for 'normal' driving. > > I can't for the life of me see any reason to do that. That was Steve Filth's suggestion, not mine. Bod
From: Bod on 26 Mar 2010 18:50 On 26/03/2010 22:47, Ian Jackson wrote: > In message <1jfzf9r.1kkz8om1b3ha6oN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth > <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> writes >> Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> If you need a lower gear, why not do the obvious thing and select a >>> lower gear (exactly like you do in a manual car)? >> >> Because many automatics don't offer the same control of gear as a >> Tiptronic. > > I confess I'm no authority on automatic cars, but, on the relatively few > occasions when I've driven one, I've had no problems 'using' the gearbox > to the best advantage. > > Same here. Bod
From: Ian Jackson on 26 Mar 2010 18:55 In message <814rvnF2r5U1(a)mid.individual.net>, Bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> writes >On 26/03/2010 22:42, Ian Jackson wrote: >> In message <814q7qFo50U1(a)mid.individual.net>, Bod >> <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> writes >>> On 26/03/2010 21:54, Ian Jackson wrote: >>>> In message <814ob9Fb6vU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Bod >>>> <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> writes >>>>> On 26/03/2010 21:39, Ian Jackson wrote: >>>>>> In message <1jfzcw8.a7axnf1dwjtujN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth >>>>>> <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> writes >>>>>>> Bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> To me, using one's left foot for braking in an auto, is frankly >>>>>>>> absurd >>>>>>>> and unnatural. Especially if one has spent some years previously >>>>>>>> driving >>>>>>>> a manual. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <shrug> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So what? You're a prat, and you appear to have the experience of a >>>>>>> six >>>>>>> year old without the imagination of a child. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Left foot braking in an automatic has its place. It's one way of >>>>>>> keeping >>>>>>> up revs and of ensuring that one is in the right gear for any corner. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you need a lower gear, why not do the obvious thing and select a >>>>>> lower gear (exactly like you do in a manual car)? >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Yes, or simply use the kickdown. >>>>> >>>> You wouldn't want to do that if you were also wanting to slow you down a >>>> little. You would probably go faster and, as soon as you 'eased off the >>>> gas', you would change up again. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> What's wrong with simply pressing the brake to slow down and then >>> kickdown when you need the power. That's the way most people drive autos. >>> >> I expect they do! >> >> But, unless I've misunderstood, what is being suggested is forcing a >> change-down by simultaneously braking (left foot) and keeping the >> accelerator pressed (right foot). I don't think that's a technique >> usually used for 'normal' driving. >> >> > > I can't for the life of me see any reason to do that. > That was Steve Filth's suggestion, not mine. > I know! --
From: Steve Firth on 26 Mar 2010 18:56 Bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > What's wrong with simply pressing the brake to slow down and then > kickdown when you need the power. That's the way most people drive autos. Oh FFS. Have you considered breathing deeply and getting some oxygen into your brain?
From: Steve Firth on 26 Mar 2010 19:14
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I confess I'm no authority on automatic cars, but, on the relatively few > occasions when I've driven one, I've had no problems 'using' the gearbox > to the best advantage. Modern automatic gearboxes have between five and seven gears. The gear selector on many of them has D, 2, 1. Do you get the hang of the issue? |