Why the hell do they do this:-
in [UK Drivers]
|
Prev: Invisibility cloak created in 3-D
Next: Record number of motorists prosecuted for driving while using mobile phones
From: Steve Firth on 27 Mar 2010 15:54 Miike G <miktoolman(a)miktoolman.plus.net> wrote: > Maybe I'm a bit dim, but I still don't understand what braking as you say > actually achieves. If one works on the premise of slow in, fast out on bends > or corners, the revs you have as you enter the bend, are goung to be too low > for a hard accelleration out of the bend. Errm no, that's exactly what one is avoiding. > The slight lag one gets as the box changes down, IME, has little affect on > the overal speed through the bend. So in your world it's better to downshift while negotiating a bend rather than before entering it? Do you also brake at the apex of the bend? > In any case, if one is really concerned about being in the right gear > entering and throughout the bend, surely it's better to manually d/shift > before the bend to slow the car, which should mean one is in the right gear > to accelerate cleanly out of the bend. How many times do I have to repeat that not all automatics are Tiptronic?
From: alan.holmes on 27 Mar 2010 16:55 "Miike G" <miktoolman(a)miktoolman.plus.net> wrote in message news:813uf5F8iiU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "alan.holmes" <alan.holmes27(a)somewhere.net> wrote in message > news:ckRqn.96189$E66.34149(a)newsfe22.ams2... > >>>> It is this which causes the problem with having the brake lights on all >>>> the time. >>> >>> Problem? Not one I'm aware of. Sure many drivers seem to brake for no >>> reason, but cars that have brake lights on all the time must have a >>> fault. Either with the switch or wiring >> >> You are not keeping up with the subject, > > My reply was to your statement about 'having the brake lights on all the > time' > If that is something you've noticed, the only logical explanation is that > it is due to an electrical or mechanical fault, rather than driver > incompetence.. > > I have said before, that people who >> drive with their foot on the brake pedal cause the brake lights to come >> on as they just press the pedal slightly, nothing to do with the switch >> or the wiring, just laziness really! > > Agreed, but how does that explain 'brake lights on all the time'? Deep sigh, it is because they keep the brake pedal pressed all the time they are driving, because they are to stupid to put their left foot on the floor until it is needed, the fact that the brake pedal is being pressed puts the brake lights on. Is that clear now? Or are you not aware of how the things work? > > And you still haven't answered my question about left foot braking. > Mike.. > > >
From: alan.holmes on 27 Mar 2010 16:56 "Albert T Cone" <a.k.kirby(a)durham.ac.uk> wrote in message news:hoiikg$obu$1(a)heffalump.dur.ac.uk... > Bod wrote: >> To me, using one's left foot for braking in an auto, is frankly absurd >> and unnatural. Especially if one has spent some years previously driving >> a manual. > > I left-foot brake quite often, and I drive manuals... How do use a left foot on the brake on a manual, and if you do how do you declutch?
From: alan.holmes on 27 Mar 2010 16:57 "Bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:814ob9Fb6vU1(a)mid.individual.net... > On 26/03/2010 21:39, Ian Jackson wrote: >> In message <1jfzcw8.a7axnf1dwjtujN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth >> <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> writes >>> Bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> > >>>> To me, using one's left foot for braking in an auto, is frankly absurd >>>> and unnatural. Especially if one has spent some years previously >>>> driving >>>> a manual. >>> >>> <shrug> >>> >>> So what? You're a prat, and you appear to have the experience of a six >>> year old without the imagination of a child. >>> >>> >>> Left foot braking in an automatic has its place. It's one way of keeping >>> up revs and of ensuring that one is in the right gear for any corner. >> >> If you need a lower gear, why not do the obvious thing and select a >> lower gear (exactly like you do in a manual car)? > > > > > > Yes, or simply use the kickdown. You rotter, I wanted to say that!(:-( Alan > > Bod
From: Miike G on 27 Mar 2010 18:10
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message news:1jg137f.1g4mnfc1ujt4t1N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk... > Miike G <miktoolman(a)miktoolman.plus.net> wrote: > >> Maybe I'm a bit dim, but I still don't understand what braking as you say >> actually achieves. If one works on the premise of slow in, fast out on >> bends >> or corners, the revs you have as you enter the bend, are goung to be too >> low >> for a hard accelleration out of the bend. > > Errm no, that's exactly what one is avoiding. In that case, just use the accelerator and brake as normal and let the auto decide the gear. >> The slight lag one gets as the box changes down, IME, has little affect >> on >> the overal speed through the bend. > > So in your world it's better to downshift while negotiating a bend > rather than before entering it? Where did I say that? but an auto might decide to change down whether accelerating out of a bend or on the straight. .. Do you also brake at the apex of the > bend? Not as a rule, but that doesn't mean never. Occasionally it can be necessary. >> In any case, if one is really concerned about being in the right gear >> entering and throughout the bend, surely it's better to manually d/shift >> before the bend to slow the car, which should mean one is in the right >> gear >> to accelerate cleanly out of the bend. > > How many times do I have to repeat that not all automatics are > Tiptronic? Who said they were? I know I didn't. The car I drive has a steptronic box, but I have another auto with a plain 5 speed box which can be driven in exactly the same way as the steptronic one by using the shift lever like a gear lever. I've consistantly referred to manual shifting. I don't know of any auto box that don't allow manual gear selection. That is as long as the gear is within the range of the engine and gearbox rev limits. Mike.. |