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From: Steve Firth on 27 Mar 2010 19:09 Miike G <miktoolman(a)miktoolman.plus.net> wrote: > > How many times do I have to repeat that not all automatics are > > Tiptronic? > > Who said they were? I know I didn't. You advised changing using the gear selector. On a Tiptronic or similar that can be done and one can end up with the gear one wants. On other boxes one has Drive/2/1 or sometimes D/3/2/1. > The car I drive has a steptronic box, but I have another auto with a plain > 5 speed box which can be driven in exactly the same way as the steptronic > one by using the shift lever like a gear lever. Except it can't, can it? Whatever, you drive your car the way you like, I'll drive mine the way I like.
From: Miike G on 27 Mar 2010 21:50 "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message >> > How many times do I have to repeat that not all automatics are >> > Tiptronic? >> >> Who said they were? I know I didn't. > > You advised changing using the gear selector. On a Tiptronic or similar > that can be done and one can end up with the gear one wants. On other > boxes one has Drive/2/1 or sometimes D/3/2/1 How does that prevent you from using the gear you want?. >> The car I drive has a steptronic box, but I have another auto with a >> plain >> 5 speed box which can be driven in exactly the same way as the steptronic >> one by using the shift lever like a gear lever. > > Except it can't, can it? Yes it can. The only real difference between them is the way the gears are selected. Once selected a gear can be held in the same way as in the later car with steptronic. Mike.
From: Ian Jackson on 28 Mar 2010 03:39 In message <RNWdnWpNO-SaKzPWnZ2dnUVZ8jidnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk>, Miike G <miktoolman(a)miktoolman.plus.net> writes > >"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message > >>> > How many times do I have to repeat that not all automatics are >>> > Tiptronic? >>> >>> Who said they were? I know I didn't. >> >> You advised changing using the gear selector. On a Tiptronic or similar >> that can be done and one can end up with the gear one wants. On other >> boxes one has Drive/2/1 or sometimes D/3/2/1 > >How does that prevent you from using the gear you want?. > >>> The car I drive has a steptronic box, but I have another auto with a >>> plain >>> 5 speed box which can be driven in exactly the same way as the steptronic >>> one by using the shift lever like a gear lever. >> >> Except it can't, can it? > >Yes it can. The only real difference between them is the way the gears are >selected. Once selected a gear can be held in the same way as in the later >car with steptronic. >Mike. > As a manual driver who has only driven automatics when on holiday in the USA, I'm not sure that I understand what is being argued about (ie the essential difference between a bog-stand traditional auto gearbox and this new-fangled 'Tiptronic' must-have). With the traditional gearbox, the highest gear the car can select is what you have put the gear lever to. If you're driving along happily in 'drive' and the gearbox has selected the 'drive' gear (top gear), and then move the lever to '2', the gear will immediately change to '2', and the engine revs will increase accordingly. The end result is no different from a manual gearbox. This is what you might do when you approach a corner, and want to 'keep good control' of your car without necessarily slowing down. If you drive off in '2', the car will start off in first gear, then change to - and remain in - second gear. It will never go to top. While a 'Tiptronic' box may have a few more bells and whistles, in what way is its basic operation different? -- Ian
From: Steve Firth on 28 Mar 2010 06:49 Miike G <miktoolman(a)miktoolman.plus.net> wrote: > "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message > > >> > How many times do I have to repeat that not all automatics are > >> > Tiptronic? > >> > >> Who said they were? I know I didn't. > > > > You advised changing using the gear selector. On a Tiptronic or similar > > that can be done and one can end up with the gear one wants. On other > > boxes one has Drive/2/1 or sometimes D/3/2/1 > > How does that prevent you from using the gear you want?. Oh FFS.
From: Miike G on 28 Mar 2010 12:37
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message news:1jg2bg8.lm4g7li1q6pN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk... > Miike G <miktoolman(a)miktoolman.plus.net> wrote: > >> "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message >> >> >> > How many times do I have to repeat that not all automatics are >> >> > Tiptronic? >> >> >> >> Who said they were? I know I didn't. >> > >> > You advised changing using the gear selector. On a Tiptronic or similar >> > that can be done and one can end up with the gear one wants. On other >> > boxes one has Drive/2/1 or sometimes D/3/2/1 >> >> How does that prevent you from using the gear you want?. > > Oh FFS Within parameters that's what all the autos I've driven have allowed, and that includes the 3 that I have at present. Seems you know less than you think. Mike. |