From: Vicko Zoomba on
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/8555576.stm

A gang of travellers who stole hundreds of caravans worth more than
£700,000 have been jailed.

The four men, who were based in Wiltshire, are thought to be
responsible for half the country's caravan thefts between 2004 and
2007.

Charlie Ward, 28, Martin Ward, 21, John McDonagh, 31, and Martin
McDonagh, 29, were jailed for between four and nine years at
Winchester Crown Court.

The insurance industry reported a 47% drop in claims following their
arrest.

The men were found in possession of stolen caravans, cars and motor
homes, jewellery and cash when they were arrested in Chiseldon in
October 2007.

'Distress and anguish'

They were found guilty of conspiring to steal after a three-month
trial but cleared of money laundering.

The court heard that the Ward-McDonagh family began stealing caravans
from driveways and motorway service stations in 2004.

Fathers-of-five Martin McDonagh and Charlie Ward were sentenced to
four years and five years for two separate offences. The sentences
will be served consecutively.

John McDonagh and Martin Ward were jailed for four years for their
part in one of the conspiracies.

Sentencing the men, Judge Patrick Hooton said the crimes had caused
distress and anguish to the victims.

"This trial lasted for three months and during the course of it I
heard evidence of repeated thefts of caravans and motor vehicles which
in total could be described as theft on a grand scale repeated time
after time after time," the judge said.

He said the conspiracy had been well organised.

The men, who travel between the UK and the Republic of Ireland, all
had previous convictions related to the theft of caravans.

Confiscation proceedings will now take place against the gang to seize
their assets.

Nineteen police forces were involved in the operation to catch the
men.
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Well we can't discriminate against pikeys - after all they have
rights, don't they? They're always law abiding citizens we're told -
yet they nicked half the caravans in England for three years...ffs!


McKevvy
From: Ian on
On 8 Mar, 16:51, Vicko Zoomba <vicko_zoo...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> Well we can't discriminate against pikeys - after all they have
> rights, don't they? They're always law abiding citizens we're told -
> yet they nicked half the caravans in England for three years...ffs!

But what a heavy punishment. Two whole years in prison.

Ian
From: Silk on
On 08/03/2010 16:51, Vicko Zoomba wrote:

> Charlie Ward, 28, Martin Ward, 21, John McDonagh, 31, and Martin
> McDonagh, 29, were jailed for between four and nine years at
> Winchester Crown Court.

Some traditional Romany names I see.
From: TJ on

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A gang of travellers who stole hundreds of caravans worth more than
�700,000 have been jailed.


No surprise there then really! Gypsys are usually conning people.


The four men, who were based in Wiltshire, are thought to be
responsible for half the country's caravan thefts between 2004 and
2007.

So the claim that they ARE responsible is not correct. Either
they did or they didn't steal them.


Charlie Ward, 28, Martin Ward, 21, John McDonagh, 31, and Martin
McDonagh, 29, were jailed for between four and nine years at
Winchester Crown Court.

Great! That might tech them a lesson and teach the police that the
caravan sites full of scum are not a "no-go" zone. They should not
be afraid of "upsetting" criminals so much or have double standards.
While they are at it, check every single vehicle is taxed, insured and
has an MOT. A lot do not and a lot are stolen.


The insurance industry reported a 47% drop in claims following their
arrest.

That statistic is a bit meaningless as one programme I watched
showed how very dishonest people would sell their caravan and later
claim it was stolen so they could get a newer one. Widescale fraud
by caravan owners!

The men were found in possession of stolen caravans, cars and motor
homes, jewellery and cash when they were arrested in Chiseldon in
October 2007.

Excellent, we should start chopping hands off.

'Distress and anguish'

Yes, maybe for the honest owners that had vehicles and caravans stolen.


They were found guilty of conspiring to steal after a three-month
trial but cleared of money laundering.


What a shame, there was probably not enough time to pin that on them.

The court heard that the Ward-McDonagh family began stealing caravans
from driveways and motorway service stations in 2004.

Fathers-of-five Martin McDonagh and Charlie Ward were sentenced to
four years and five years for two separate offences. The sentences
will be served consecutively.

John McDonagh and Martin Ward were jailed for four years for their
part in one of the conspiracies.

Sentencing the men, Judge Patrick Hooton said the crimes had caused
distress and anguish to the victims.

Yes, to have thieving gypsey scum taking your stuff and having the
police turn a blind eye for fear of complaints is unacceptable.

"This trial lasted for three months and during the course of it I
heard evidence of repeated thefts of caravans and motor vehicles which
in total could be described as theft on a grand scale repeated time
after time after time," the judge said.

He said the conspiracy had been well organised.

The men, who travel between the UK and the Republic of Ireland, all
had previous convictions related to the theft of caravans.

Confiscation proceedings will now take place against the gang to seize
their assets.

That's if you can account for them all.


Nineteen police forces were involved in the operation to catch the
men.
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Well we can't discriminate against pikeys - after all they have
rights, don't they? They're always law abiding citizens we're told -
yet they nicked half the caravans in England for three years...ffs!

The police are too afraid when they know people can shout racism,
discrimination etc. They would rather not do the paperwork for
malicious complaints against officers instead of investigating
properly. That's why they turn a blind eye to stolen vehicles without
tax, MOT and insurance. The police should investigate all
crimes the same way and not give preference to those in the job or
relatives. That is what happens at the moment.
The police stay well clear of investigations if people can start
getting publicity.






McKevvy


From: GeoffC on
Silk wrote:
> On 08/03/2010 16:51, Vicko Zoomba wrote:
>
>> Charlie Ward, 28, Martin Ward, 21, John McDonagh, 31, and Martin
>> McDonagh, 29, were jailed for between four and nine years at
>> Winchester Crown Court.
>
> Some traditional Romany names I see.

Winchester????

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Geoff