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From: Clive George on
"Douglas Payne" <douggie(a)cheerful.com> wrote in message
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> Personally, if all biscuits cost the same per packet and all packets had
> the same amount of biscuits, I'd buy nice boasters rather than the
> invariably not as good hob-nobs.

Oooh, you're so wrong! Plain chocolate hobnobs are far nicer than boasters.

But then I drive a diesel too...


From: Mike P on
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:42:40 +0100, Douglas Payne wrote:

> JackH wrote:
>> On 19 Sep, 15:04, "AstraVanMann" <pe...(a)swerveweb.com> wrote:
>>> "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>>>> Yep, especially now , down here at least, petrol has now risen to
>>>>>> the same price as the smelly stuff.
>>>>> Perspective of post corrected. :-)
>>>> Round here I keep seeing proper fuel 1-2p/l more than derv. I just
>>>> drive on, and on after all the 1.9 TDi happily returns 70+ mpg if
>>>> driven softly.
>>> I still think the best approach is to do less miles in general, such
>>> that any difference is pretty insignificant, if saving money is the
>>> main objective.
>>
>> Believe it or not... not everyone who drives a TDI does it to save
>> money.
>>
>> Some people like the power delivery - tis one of the reasons I tend to
>> have them tbh.
>>
>> The fact they'll do that much more to the gallon than an invariably
>> slower petrol equivalent, is a bonus. ;-)
>
> Uh oh, *this* argument again.
>
> Personally, if all biscuits cost the same per packet and all packets had
> the same amount of biscuits, I'd buy nice boasters rather than the
> invariably not as good hob-nobs.

Hobnobs are a far better biscuit. I'm quite satisfied after a couple of
them, but I can eat an entire packet of boasters..

Mike p
From: Douglas Payne on
Mike P wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:42:40 +0100, Douglas Payne wrote:
>
>> JackH wrote:
>>> On 19 Sep, 15:04, "AstraVanMann" <pe...(a)swerveweb.com> wrote:
>>>> "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>>>>> Yep, especially now , down here at least, petrol has now risen to
>>>>>>> the same price as the smelly stuff.
>>>>>> Perspective of post corrected. :-)
>>>>> Round here I keep seeing proper fuel 1-2p/l more than derv. I just
>>>>> drive on, and on after all the 1.9 TDi happily returns 70+ mpg if
>>>>> driven softly.
>>>> I still think the best approach is to do less miles in general, such
>>>> that any difference is pretty insignificant, if saving money is the
>>>> main objective.
>>> Believe it or not... not everyone who drives a TDI does it to save
>>> money.
>>>
>>> Some people like the power delivery - tis one of the reasons I tend to
>>> have them tbh.
>>>
>>> The fact they'll do that much more to the gallon than an invariably
>>> slower petrol equivalent, is a bonus. ;-)
>> Uh oh, *this* argument again.
>>
>> Personally, if all biscuits cost the same per packet and all packets had
>> the same amount of biscuits, I'd buy nice boasters rather than the
>> invariably not as good hob-nobs.
>
> Hobnobs are a far better biscuit. I'm quite satisfied after a couple of
> them, but I can eat an entire packet of boasters..

Hmm, have you tried dipping your boasters in injector cleaner?

--
Douglas
From: Mike P on
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:01:17 -0700, JackH wrote:

> On 19 Sep, 17:20, Mike P <priv...(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 07:51:40 -0700, JackH wrote:
>> > On 19 Sep, 15:04, "AstraVanMann" <pe...(a)swerveweb.com> wrote:
>> >> "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote:
>> >> >>> Yep, especially now , down here at least, petrol has now risen
>> >> >>> to the same price as the smelly stuff.
>>
>> >> >> Perspective of post corrected. :-)
>>
>> >> > Round here I keep seeing proper fuel 1-2p/l more than derv. I just
>> >> > drive on, and on after all the 1.9 TDi happily returns 70+ mpg if
>> >> > driven softly.
>>
>> >> I still think the best approach is to do less miles in general, such
>> >> that any difference is pretty insignificant, if saving money is the
>> >> main objective.
>>
>> > Believe it or not... not everyone who drives a TDI does it to save
>> > money.
>>
>> > Some people like the power delivery - tis one of the reasons I tend
>> > to have them tbh.
>>
>> > The fact they'll do that much more to the gallon than an invariably
>> > slower petrol equivalent, is a bonus. ;-)
>>
>> Yes, same here. I could squeeze the same mpg out of a petrol 1.4 Xsara
>> or similar, but it would be torturous to do so. At least the TD has a
>> *bit* of oomph.  I'm not a great fan of the power delivery , it runs
>> out too soon. My engine of choice would be a petrol turbo.
>
> Try a decently mapped VAG TDI... they're a lot more pokey and flexible
> than a HDI, even a mapped one IME.

HDI? You think I've spent that much on a Xsara..? Mine's one of the old
skool TDs. Ball of fire it ain't. It's fast cornering I find diesels not
great at. In the Puma or MX-5 for example, I can drop a gear and be doing
5-5.5krpm and have it singing as I power out of the bend, I always seem
to have to change gear at the wrong time with a diesel. Sounds like a
mapped VAG lump might get round some of that.

>> <tells AVM to shut up before he starts>
>
> <decides not to hold breath for too long>

Heh, I'm tempted by the Xantia Activa when he wants to flog it. That
means I have to find a buyer for the Puma and he has to get his Golf off
my drive. That's one option, or I could flog the Puma and buy another
MX-5, or 5-series wagon. Which is a bad idea. But I still want one.

Mike P

From: Mike P on
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:16:14 +0100, Douglas Payne wrote:

> Mike P wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:42:40 +0100, Douglas Payne wrote:
>>
>>> JackH wrote:
>>>> On 19 Sep, 15:04, "AstraVanMann" <pe...(a)swerveweb.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yep, especially now , down here at least, petrol has now risen to
>>>>>>>> the same price as the smelly stuff.
>>>>>>> Perspective of post corrected. :-)
>>>>>> Round here I keep seeing proper fuel 1-2p/l more than derv. I just
>>>>>> drive on, and on after all the 1.9 TDi happily returns 70+ mpg if
>>>>>> driven softly.
>>>>> I still think the best approach is to do less miles in general, such
>>>>> that any difference is pretty insignificant, if saving money is the
>>>>> main objective.
>>>> Believe it or not... not everyone who drives a TDI does it to save
>>>> money.
>>>>
>>>> Some people like the power delivery - tis one of the reasons I tend
>>>> to have them tbh.
>>>>
>>>> The fact they'll do that much more to the gallon than an invariably
>>>> slower petrol equivalent, is a bonus. ;-)
>>> Uh oh, *this* argument again.
>>>
>>> Personally, if all biscuits cost the same per packet and all packets
>>> had the same amount of biscuits, I'd buy nice boasters rather than the
>>> invariably not as good hob-nobs.
>>
>> Hobnobs are a far better biscuit. I'm quite satisfied after a couple of
>> them, but I can eat an entire packet of boasters..
>
> Hmm, have you tried dipping your boasters in injector cleaner?

They go soggy and absorb too much. Hobnobs don't, they don't even absorb
much oil or crud when you are working on the car and stop for a cuppa

Mike P
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