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From: Ret. on 25 Jun 2010 03:02 Clive George wrote: > On 24/06/2010 20:26, Chris Bartram wrote: > >> That's avoiding the point. They weren't being paid to ignore people. > ... >> Perhaps because the roads were quiet? I go shopping when the matches >> are on, because driving there is less tedious. I don't see what's >> cuntish about expecting someone to do their job, I'm afraid. > > Why is it that so many people have got this wrong? Their job at that > point isn't necessarily to sell cars to Kev. If management are happy > with them watching telly, that's within the scope of their job at the > time. And I just wonder what the top bosses at the dealership's head offices would think about the lowly manager at the local dealerships making these decisions? Somehow I suspect that the decision to allow workers to neglect their duties in this fashion is not a 'top-down' policy. -- Kev
From: Ret. on 25 Jun 2010 03:03 Clive George wrote: > On 24/06/2010 18:26, Ret. wrote: >> Clive George wrote: >>> On 24/06/2010 17:25, Ret. wrote: >>> >>>> So I take it that you would also have been happy for ambulancemen, >>>> policemen, firemen, and doctors etc to also just tune in and switch >>>> off for a couple of hours. After all - it's only every four years >>>> innit? >>> >>> Do you not realise quite how ridiculous that argument is? >> >> So it's ok for some workers to neglect their duties - but not for >> others? > > What duties were the salesmen neglecting? Do you have an SLA with the > dealership telling you what they are? > > Have you still not understood that if their management were ok with > it, they weren't neglecting anything? Complete tosh. - And which management are you talking about? Do you think this action was sanctioned at the highest level within the national company? I doubt it very much. -- Kev
From: Ret. on 25 Jun 2010 03:06 Clive George wrote: > On 24/06/2010 19:09, Ret. wrote: >> Clive George wrote: >>> On 24/06/2010 17:36, Ret. wrote: >>> >>>> As someone else has already pointed out - it is this attitude that >>>> is the main problem with the UK today. >>>> No, car salesman are not doing a life or death job - but they are >>>> (supposed) to be doing a job. That job is to do their best to sell >>>> cars and to provide a good service to customers. >>> >>> No, their job isn't defined by you, it's defined by their >>> management. >>> >>> Management decide it's ok to watch the footie, they're allowed to. >>> Get over it. >> >> Certainly they are 'allowed to' - whether it is good business >> practice is another matter entirely... > > Now you're getting closer. > > So, what proportion of their business comes from footie fans and what > proportion from tight-arsed wheel kickers? How much effort are the > various dealers going to have to put in to make a sale to you? We know > you spend quite a lot of time going to dealers - that adds up. You really do talk some nonsense don't you? -- Kev
From: bod on 25 Jun 2010 03:08 Ret. wrote: > Clive George wrote: >> On 24/06/2010 18:26, Ret. wrote: >>> Clive George wrote: >>>> On 24/06/2010 17:25, Ret. wrote: >>>> >>>>> So I take it that you would also have been happy for ambulancemen, >>>>> policemen, firemen, and doctors etc to also just tune in and switch >>>>> off for a couple of hours. After all - it's only every four years >>>>> innit? >>>> >>>> Do you not realise quite how ridiculous that argument is? >>> >>> So it's ok for some workers to neglect their duties - but not for >>> others? >> >> What duties were the salesmen neglecting? Do you have an SLA with the >> dealership telling you what they are? >> >> Have you still not understood that if their management were ok with >> it, they weren't neglecting anything? > > Complete tosh. - And which management are you talking about? Do you > think this action was sanctioned at the highest level within the > national company? I doubt it very much. > > They quite possibly did, knowing that half the country will be watching the England match. I bet they assumed that there was little chance of making a sale during the match time. Bod
From: Ret. on 25 Jun 2010 03:09
Clive George wrote: > On 24/06/2010 18:33, Brimstone wrote: > >> Because that's their job, it's what they're being paid to do. > > Since when have you decided what their job is? > > Are you the management at a car dealership? No? Well, in that case, > you have absolutely no control over defining what their job is and > what they're being paid to do. So how would *you* define the role of a car salesman working in a dealership? Is it: a) To sit around all day reading porno magazines? b) To sit behind their desks and play computer games? c) To set up a TV and watch football games? d) To make every effort to induce potential customers to buy a car? Answers on a postcard to... -- Kev |