From: Ret. on 8 Jan 2010 13:02
> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>>> If there really is a god can you give me his phone number please? Of
>>> course you can't
> He's ex-directory.
>> Religion is the biggest single cause of avoidable death in the
>> history of mankind, The sooner people grow up and take
>> responsibility for themselves the better we will all be.
> I think that falls into the "not quite" pile. _Religion_ itself is
> not to blame. The idiots who use it as a convenient cloak for
> xenophobia, racism, misogyny and just plain misanthropy - either
> committing acts themselves or "merely" inciting the gullible to do
> their dirty work for them. They're the ones who are to blame.
> Directly and personally.
Which really, Adrian, is a nonsense. 'Religion' is a concept and cannot, of
itself, do anything to anybody. It is the adherents of religious doctrine
who, you quite rightly point out, cause all the killings - but they are done
in the name of religion and therefore it is religion that is the ultimate
cause. Whether or not, without religion, the same people would find excuses
to similarly murder and mutilate each other is another issue of course...
From: Mike on 10 Jan 2010 15:23
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 00:35:03 -0800 (PST), NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com>
>The Koran is similar, follow the rules and you won't poison
>your family and will get on with your neighbours.
You forgot about the war mongering, the killing, the oppression of
women, the hours a day wasted at prayer, the 72 virgins, the lack of
bacon sandwiches, the lack of alcohol, the child abuse, the violence,
the dubious sexual practices and the regular destruction of non
believers in your pretend person.
All religion is scum, but some are more elevated forms of scum than