Would you support a "stick shift only" drivers license?
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From: dr_jeff on 24 May 2010 21:42 His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises wrote: > On May 24, 9:15 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote: >> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic >> >> >> >> Enterprises wrote: >>> On May 24, 8:24 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Jim A wrote >>>>> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises wrote >>>>>> In most parts of the world driving means "stick shift," not >>>>>> automatic, which even a monkey can do. The result is that obviously >>>>>> we got a bunch of monkeys driving, some of them wanting to be "king >>>>>> of the road" and driving SUVs... Of course, this "automatic pilot" >>>>>> driving facilitates all the other crazy stuff such as: TALKING ON >>>>>> THE PHONE, NO SIGNAL LIGHTS, ZIGZAGGING, which makes driving such a game of Russian Roulette... >>>>>> So is this IDIOCRACY reversible, or we just have to live with it? >>>>> Very few cars here in the UK aren't stick-shift. >>>> Oh bullshit.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual_transmission#Applications_and_pop... >>> "Many types of automobiles are equipped with manual transmissions. >>> Small economy cars predominantly feature manual transmissions because >>> they are cheap and efficient, although many are optionally equipped >>> with automatics. Economy cars are also often powered by very small >>> engines, and manual transmissions make more efficient use of the power >>> produced. >>> Sports cars are also often equipped with manual transmissions because >>> they offer more direct driver involvement and better performance. Off- >>> road vehicles and trucks often feature manual transmissions because >>> they allow direct gear selection and are often more rugged than their >>> automatic counterparts." >>> *** >>> In other words, smart cars take stick-shift, and stupid cars such as >>> the bigger cars and SUVs go on "automatic pilot." >>> How much easier you want to make it for the dinosaurs? >> A lot of people, like me, like manual transmissions. When I bought my >> last car, my two requirements were a moon roof and manual. However, many >> more prefer automatic transmissions. Automatics have the advantage of >> not having to select the gear, smooth shifts, easier (for some) to drive >> and often better fuel efficiency and the ability to drive it as a >> manual. CVTs often ofter better fuel efficiency, too. Plus, because it >> continuously changes gear, there are no sudden gear shifts. They can be >> more fuel efficient too, particularly when they are in a hybrid car. >> >> Jeff > > They are not compatible with bigger cars, right? > > I'm all for SMALL, MANUAL, FUN cars. The rest is just transportation > or status. There is more to life than shifting. A lot of people like big cars and trucks. To each his own. Jeff
From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises on 24 May 2010 21:59 On May 24, 9:42 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote: > His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic > > > > Enterprises wrote: > > On May 24, 9:15 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote: > >> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic > > >> Enterprises wrote: > >>> On May 24, 8:24 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Jim A wrote > >>>>> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises wrote > >>>>>> In most parts of the world driving means "stick shift," not > >>>>>> automatic, which even a monkey can do. The result is that obviously > >>>>>> we got a bunch of monkeys driving, some of them wanting to be "king > >>>>>> of the road" and driving SUVs... Of course, this "automatic pilot" > >>>>>> driving facilitates all the other crazy stuff such as: TALKING ON > >>>>>> THE PHONE, NO SIGNAL LIGHTS, ZIGZAGGING, which makes driving such a game of Russian Roulette... > >>>>>> So is this IDIOCRACY reversible, or we just have to live with it? > >>>>> Very few cars here in the UK aren't stick-shift. > >>>> Oh bullshit.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual_transmission#Applications_and_pop... > >>> "Many types of automobiles are equipped with manual transmissions. > >>> Small economy cars predominantly feature manual transmissions because > >>> they are cheap and efficient, although many are optionally equipped > >>> with automatics. Economy cars are also often powered by very small > >>> engines, and manual transmissions make more efficient use of the power > >>> produced. > >>> Sports cars are also often equipped with manual transmissions because > >>> they offer more direct driver involvement and better performance. Off- > >>> road vehicles and trucks often feature manual transmissions because > >>> they allow direct gear selection and are often more rugged than their > >>> automatic counterparts." > >>> *** > >>> In other words, smart cars take stick-shift, and stupid cars such as > >>> the bigger cars and SUVs go on "automatic pilot." > >>> How much easier you want to make it for the dinosaurs? > >> A lot of people, like me, like manual transmissions. When I bought my > >> last car, my two requirements were a moon roof and manual. However, many > >> more prefer automatic transmissions. Automatics have the advantage of > >> not having to select the gear, smooth shifts, easier (for some) to drive > >> and often better fuel efficiency and the ability to drive it as a > >> manual. CVTs often ofter better fuel efficiency, too. Plus, because it > >> continuously changes gear, there are no sudden gear shifts. They can be > >> more fuel efficient too, particularly when they are in a hybrid car. > > >> Jeff > > > They are not compatible with bigger cars, right? > > > I'm all for SMALL, MANUAL, FUN cars. The rest is just transportation > > or status. > > There is more to life than shifting. A lot of people like big cars and > trucks. To each his own. > > Jeff Yeah, those same people are killing the environment and others on the road.
From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises on 25 May 2010 10:35 On May 25, 5:26 am, bugbear <bugbear(a)trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote: > His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises wrote: > > > In most parts of the world driving means "stick shift," not automatic, > > which even a monkey can do. The result is that obviously we got a > > bunch of monkeys driving, some of them wanting to be "king of the > > road" and driving SUVs... Of course, this "automatic pilot" driving > > facilitates all the other crazy stuff such as: TALKING ON THE PHONE, > > NO SIGNAL LIGHTS, ZIGZAGGING, which makes driving such a game of > > Russian Roulette... > > > So is this IDIOCRACY reversible, or we just have to live with it? > > Hmm. Perhaps a license obtained by a test in an automatic > shouldn't allow you to drive a stick shift (AKA manual). > > ;-) > > BugBear OK, I'd like to hear from the CIVILIZED WORLD, places where there's no mass production of drivers for profit.
From: John David Galt on 25 May 2010 18:22 On 2010-05-24 10:59, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises wrote: > In most parts of the world driving means "stick shift," not automatic, > which even a monkey can do. The result is that obviously we got a > bunch of monkeys driving, some of them wanting to be "king of the > road" and driving SUVs... Of course, this "automatic pilot" driving > facilitates all the other crazy stuff such as: TALKING ON THE PHONE, > NO SIGNAL LIGHTS, ZIGZAGGING, which makes driving such a game of > Russian Roulette... > > So is this IDIOCRACY reversible, or we just have to live with it? Any idiot can drive a slushbox; there's more to know with a stick-shift. So if you want a restricted license it should be "no stick shifts", not stick-shift-only.
From: trivial guy on 28 May 2010 17:43
In article <d57336b6-19c9-44a5-bbe7-1b1643146887(a)f13g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises <nolionnoproblem(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >In most parts of the civilized world, American driving would look >funny and crazy. Even your traffic signs are out whack and your metric >system sucks. Our metric system is fine. We just don't use it. :-) |