From: F Murtz on
Kev wrote:
> atec7 7 > wrote:
>> http://au.todaytonight.yahoo.com/article/7032831/money/car-write-changes
>
>
> What a fucked idea
> a registered repairable write off has to be inspected before it can be
> reregistered anyway, or it should be that way, this stops dodgy non repairs
>
> The biggest losers won't be the insurance companies at all
> it will be Jonh Q Premium payer
> stand by for a huge jump in premiums
>
>
> Kev
The owners of old classic cars that cost too much for minor bingles
would waste their money insuring them if they want to see their loved
car live on.
From: Noddy on

"D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
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> Like most things in this world good things are spoiled by a handful of
> dodgy pricks.

And because of that the Government (and Shane it would seem) think it's far
better to shut the whole operation down completely rather than just tighten
the laws to make it more difficult for those who are willing to try and
break them.

> After the recent hailstorms in Melb and Perth hundreds of cars were
> written off for economic reasons, all the damage was cosmetic and the
> damage didn't make the cars unsafe yet under those new rules in NSW they
> would have to be scrapped and there is no sense in that.

Absolutely none whatsoever.

Declaring a vehicle a "write off" has no impact on it's safety or integrity
whatsoever, as vehicles can be a financial loss yet remain every bit as safe
as a similar vehicle with no damage at all.

More ridiculous government knee jerk bullshit.

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Regards,
Noddy.



From: Shane on


"Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message
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> "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
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>
>> Like most things in this world good things are spoiled by a handful of
>> dodgy pricks.
>
> And because of that the Government (and Shane it would seem) think it's
> far better to shut the whole operation down completely rather than just
> tighten the laws to make it more difficult for those who are willing to
> try and break them.

I said unless there were changes actually.

>
>> After the recent hailstorms in Melb and Perth hundreds of cars were
>> written off for economic reasons, all the damage was cosmetic and the
>> damage didn't make the cars unsafe yet under those new rules in NSW they
>> would have to be scrapped and there is no sense in that.
>
> Absolutely none whatsoever.
>
> Declaring a vehicle a "write off" has no impact on it's safety or
> integrity whatsoever, as vehicles can be a financial loss yet remain every
> bit as safe as a similar vehicle with no damage at all.
>
> More ridiculous government knee jerk bullshit.

They need to re-classify the meaning of repairable write-off.



>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>
>
>
From: D Walford on
On 8/04/2010 9:36 PM, Shane wrote:

>
> They need to re-classify the meaning of repairable write-off.

Especially when the damage is cosmetic and not structural.
Does the "data dot" system that's standard on Subaru's help reduce
insurance fraud?


Daryl
From: atec7 7 ""atec77 " on
Athol wrote:
> atec7 7 <""atec77 \"@ hotmail.com"> wrote:
>> Athol wrote:
>
>>> Plenty of them out there. It would make more sense to require repairs to
>>> be carried out by qualified people than to kill a section of the industry
>>> because of the shonks who aren't actually in the industry.
>
>> Trouble is the worst shonks are in the panel trade
>
> There are plenty in the trade, that's certainly true, but I don't think
> that was what Shane was talking about.
It wasn't


butt
>
>> I have rebuilt several and in each case they were done correctly
>> ( I have kept several) or sold them to friends , as I said previously
>> the rwc inspection done by a good engineer at a fair cost to be sure
>> nothing was missed , making them all be checked by certified engineers
>> would stop a lot of it if the penalties for falsification was tripled
>
> Repaired under supervision of a signatory engineer, who has to see and
> photograph at several stages, including stripped of damaged parts prior
> to repairs commencing, completion of welded repairs prior to reassembly
> of other components, and after completion. Add in a requirement for the
> diagnostic link to have been checked by an authorised dealer of that
> brand and signed off as error free (including checking ABS, SRS, etc.)
> where applicable, and you would probably solve many of the problems.
>
> Sadly, at that point, you'd suddenly see a dramatic drop in the total
> number of signatories, or a drop in the number of signatories prepared
> to inspect repaired write-offs. As Shane said, the auctions look like
> Beirut. Sending those same people to signatory engineers and telling
> them to get their vehicles certified would cause a lot of intimidation
> of engineers... Been there.
Maybe a gym ?

Bloke I use makes me look tiny , was saying while doing an inspection
a ute fell on him injuring his shoulder which from the description would
have killed a mere mortal . I expect you are correct but something must
be done as the law in NSW will send more than 1/2 the wreckers broke and
used car prices will be nothing
>