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From: Doug on 14 Apr 2010 07:13 On 14 Apr, 11:48, "John Turner" <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > "Doug" wrote > > > To try to equate the danger presented by a non-faulty bicycle at 15mph > > with a faulty car capable fo very high speeds indeed is utterly > > ludicrous. > > Why is it? If ridden/driven inappropriately any vehicle, whether propelled > by an engine or by pedals, could easily cause injury or death. > Simple science, i.e. momentum and resulting impact force. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill.
From: McKevvy on 14 Apr 2010 07:15 On 14 Apr, 11:00, Phil Stovell <p...(a)stovell.nospam.org.uk> wrote: > On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:47:37 +0000, Mrcheerful wrote: > > Doug wrote: > >> Makes you wonder how many of these dangerous cars are currently still > >> allowed to be in use in the UK, along with all the others with serious > >> faults, doesn't it? > > >> "Toyota suspends US sales of Lexus GX 460 > > >> Japanese carmaker Toyota has announced that it will suspend sales in the > >> US of one of its luxury vehicles. > > >> The move came after a US consumer organisation warned customers not to > >> buy the Lexus GX 460 four-wheel drive because of fears it could roll > >> over. > > >> The last time it judged a vehicle's performance unacceptable was in > >> 2001..." > > >> More: > >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8618585.stm > > > when will 'they' do something about these dangerous electric bicycles with > > the over powerful motors would be more relevant to a UK newsgroup. > > Or those environmentally friendly horses and riders that go out of control > unless you pass them at 2 MPH on the wrong side of the road whilst > depositing 10 tonnes of steaming compost on the tarmac? ....presenting a hazard for bikers.
From: Phil Stovell on 14 Apr 2010 07:38 On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 04:15:50 -0700, McKevvy wrote: > On 14 Apr, 11:00, Phil Stovell <p...(a)stovell.nospam.org.uk> wrote: >> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:47:37 +0000, Mrcheerful wrote: >> > Doug wrote: >> >> Makes you wonder how many of these dangerous cars are currently still >> >> allowed to be in use in the UK, along with all the others with >> >> serious faults, doesn't it? >> >> >> "Toyota suspends US sales of Lexus GX 460 >> >> >> Japanese carmaker Toyota has announced that it will suspend sales in >> >> the US of one of its luxury vehicles. >> >> >> The move came after a US consumer organisation warned customers not >> >> to buy the Lexus GX 460 four-wheel drive because of fears it could >> >> roll over. >> >> >> The last time it judged a vehicle's performance unacceptable was in >> >> 2001..." >> >> >> More: >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8618585.stm >> >> > when will 'they' do something about these dangerous electric bicycles >> > with the over powerful motors would be more relevant to a UK >> > newsgroup. >> >> Or those environmentally friendly horses and riders that go out of >> control unless you pass them at 2 MPH on the wrong side of the road >> whilst depositing 10 tonnes of steaming compost on the tarmac? > > ...presenting a hazard for bikers. The horses aren't all bad then.
From: Derek C on 14 Apr 2010 07:50 On 14 Apr, 10:36, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote: > Makes you wonder how many of these dangerous cars are currently still > allowed to be in use in the UK, along with all the others with serious > faults, doesn't it? > > "Toyota suspends US sales of Lexus GX 460 > > Japanese carmaker Toyota has announced that it will suspend sales in > the US of one of its luxury vehicles. > > The move came after a US consumer organisation warned customers not to > buy the Lexus GX 460 four-wheel drive because of fears it could roll > over. > > The last time it judged a vehicle's performance unacceptable was in > 2001..." > > More:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8618585.stm > > -- I seem to remember that the Ford Explorer SUV had similar roll over problems (and faulty tyres as well) a few year ago. The original rather tall thin Mercedes A Class also had a tendency to roll over until modifications were made to its suspension. So why do you only pick on the Toyota/Lexus brands Doug? Do you have some sort of grudge against them? It is a fact of life that tall vehicles have a greater tendency to roll over and need to be driven with a bit more respect to their limitations. You as an ex Land Rover driver should know this as well as anybody! Derek C
From: Mrcheerful on 14 Apr 2010 07:58
Derek C wrote: > On 14 Apr, 10:36, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote: >> Makes you wonder how many of these dangerous cars are currently still >> allowed to be in use in the UK, along with all the others with >> serious faults, doesn't it? >> >> "Toyota suspends US sales of Lexus GX 460 >> >> Japanese carmaker Toyota has announced that it will suspend sales in >> the US of one of its luxury vehicles. >> >> The move came after a US consumer organisation warned customers not >> to buy the Lexus GX 460 four-wheel drive because of fears it could >> roll over. >> >> The last time it judged a vehicle's performance unacceptable was in >> 2001..." >> >> More:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8618585.stm >> >> -- > > I seem to remember that the Ford Explorer SUV had similar roll over > problems (and faulty tyres as well) a few year ago. The original > rather tall thin Mercedes A Class also had a tendency to roll over > until modifications were made to its suspension. So why do you only > pick on the Toyota/Lexus brands Doug? Do you have some sort of grudge > against them? > > It is a fact of life that tall vehicles have a greater tendency to > roll over and need to be driven with a bit more respect to their > limitations. You as an ex Land Rover driver should know this as well > as anybody! > > Derek C it is called 'double standards' |