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From: Nate Nagel on 6 May 2010 19:52
On 05/06/2010 06:23 PM, Peter Lawrence wrote:
> On 5/6/10 7:17 AM, Scott in SoCal wrote:
>> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Peter Lawrence<hummbaby(a)aol.com>
>> said:
>>> On 5/5/10 8:33 PM, Scott in SoCal wrote:
>>>> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Steve Sobol<sjsobol(a)JustThe.net>
>>>> said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Watching NCIS LA last night, was wondering if 2010 Challenger
>>>>>> sequential plate beginning with 4 could be legit. Aside from "the
>>>>>> gummint can do whatever it wants," of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> It couldn't. When I moved to Apple Valley in '03, both of our cars got
>>>>> plates starting with 5D. At that point they have to have been out
>>>>> of 4x
>>>>> plates...
>>>>
>>>> Not necessarily. There could easily be a stack of older plates stuck
>>>> in a forgotten cabinet in a DMV or AAA office somewhere that gets
>>>> re-discovered and distributed at a later date.
>>>
>>> Not very likely.
>>
>> You say that based on what?
>>
>> Have you ever been to a DMV office? Have you seen the competence level
>> of people that work there? Have you seen the kind of pressure they
>> work under on a daily basis? What procedures are in place to prevent
>> an incompetent, harried employee from misplacing a few license plates
>> for a period of time?
>
> Because except for vanity plates, California license plates are mailed
> directly to the register owner of the vehicle, so there shouldn't be a
> pile of unused regular plates at a DMV office. Those that are turned in
> when an owner gets a vanity plate are sent back to Sacramento.
>
> If you don't believe me, just go to your nearest DMV office and ask.
> They'll tell you.

If you trade in an old car, can you transfer your old plates to your new
car? I know you can do that in some states to save on the new plate fees.

nate


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From: jgar the jorrible on 6 May 2010 20:41
On May 6, 4:52 pm, Nate Nagel <njna...(a)roosters.net> wrote:
> On 05/06/2010 06:23 PM, Peter Lawrence wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 5/6/10 7:17 AM, Scott in SoCal wrote:
> >> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Peter Lawrence<hummb...(a)aol.com>
> >> said:
> >>> On 5/5/10 8:33 PM, Scott in SoCal wrote:
> >>>> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Steve Sobol<sjso...(a)JustThe.net>
> >>>> said:
>
> >>>>>> Watching NCIS LA last night, was wondering if 2010 Challenger
> >>>>>> sequential plate beginning with 4 could be legit. Aside from "the
> >>>>>> gummint can do whatever it wants," of course.
>
> >>>>> It couldn't. When I moved to Apple Valley in '03, both of our cars got
> >>>>> plates starting with 5D. At that point they have to have been out
> >>>>> of 4x
> >>>>> plates...
>
> >>>> Not necessarily. There could easily be a stack of older plates stuck
> >>>> in a forgotten cabinet in a DMV or AAA office somewhere that gets
> >>>> re-discovered and distributed at a later date.
>
> >>> Not very likely.
>
> >> You say that based on what?
>
> >> Have you ever been to a DMV office? Have you seen the competence level
> >> of people that work there? Have you seen the kind of pressure they
> >> work under on a daily basis? What procedures are in place to prevent
> >> an incompetent, harried employee from misplacing a few license plates
> >> for a period of time?
>
> > Because except for vanity plates, California license plates are mailed
> > directly to the register owner of the vehicle, so there shouldn't be a
> > pile of unused regular plates at a DMV office. Those that are turned in
> > when an owner gets a vanity plate are sent back to Sacramento.
>
> > If you don't believe me, just go to your nearest DMV office and ask.
> > They'll tell you.
>
> If you trade in an old car, can you transfer your old plates to your new
> car?  I know you can do that in some states to save on the new plate fees.
>
> nate
>
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Only "special" plates, and that's enough of a hassle that I've wound
up waiting for the sequential plates to come, then taken them in
unused, because the dealer doesn't want to handle it, even though they
have their own special window and send someone there every day.
Normally, plates stay with the car.

For classic cars, you can buy old plates, as long as they are in a set
and are for the exact year of the car. The rules used to be
different, but whatever they are, people abuse them and so the
bureaucracy gets worse.

jg
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From: Steve Sobol on 7 May 2010 16:07
In article <s887u5die0i8f7e28j6jb8i6nq1ro3ln9q(a)4ax.com>,
scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com says...


>
> That's not always true. In particular, every time I have brought in a
> vehicle from out-of-state, a clerk at either the DMV or the AAA office
> has reached into a cabinet, pulled out a license plate and two packets
> of stickers, and handed them to me in exchange for the registration
> fees. The same thing happened when I exchanged a vanity plate for a
> sequential plate a few years ago.

I wish that was true when I moved here. DMV mailed our new plates to us.


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From: jgar the jorrible on 7 May 2010 17:58
On May 6, 10:16 pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Nate Nagel <njna...(a)roosters.net>
> said:
>
> >If you trade in an old car, can you transfer your old plates to your new
> >car?  I know you can do that in some states to save on the new plate fees.
>
> In CA, the plates stay with the car. Vanity plates are an exception
> and can be transferred.

There are other kinds of plates than vanity that are exceptions -
manufacturers, dealer, government, I'm sure there are a bunch I'm not
thinking of. That was what I was wondering about in the NCIS case,
sequential plates that are actually special that LEO's use to not look
like gummint, would a smart criminal notice the issue date non-
sequitur. Of course, being a tv show, I would expect they have
multiple identical cars and a continuity person to keep the plate the
same, or not.

One real life thing I've been wondering about is I've seen former
sequences on late model cars with modern colors. There used to be a
rule you couldn't get a vanity plate that was part of a sequence that
was ever used. For example, my first car was RGY983, and at least a
few years ago you couldn't get a vanity plate that was part of a
sequential pattern that was ever used, and they weren't using that
kind of sequence any more. But I've seen a few late model cars with 3
letter/3 number combinations. Did they change that vanity rule, or
decide to reuse old sequences? It caught my attention enough a few
months ago to look close to be sure it wasn't just scraped off or
something, gold Lexus coupe, and I've seen others.

jg
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From: Jim Yanik on 7 May 2010 18:00
Steve Sobol <sjsobol(a)JustThe.net> wrote in
news:MPG.264e12d456d71567989910(a)news.justthe.net:

> In article <s887u5die0i8f7e28j6jb8i6nq1ro3ln9q(a)4ax.com>,
> scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com says...
>
>
>>
>> That's not always true. In particular, every time I have brought in a
>> vehicle from out-of-state, a clerk at either the DMV or the AAA office
>> has reached into a cabinet, pulled out a license plate and two packets
>> of stickers, and handed them to me in exchange for the registration
>> fees. The same thing happened when I exchanged a vanity plate for a
>> sequential plate a few years ago.
>
> I wish that was true when I moved here. DMV mailed our new plates to us.
>
>

here in the Orlando,FL. area,I've gone to the local DMV licence branch and
gotten -free- plates when my current plate was smashed up in an
accident[unreadable]. they have a stack of plates,and print up a nice
yellow sticker for them while you wait.the sticker has the expiration date
and in small print,the plate number. It doesn't take very long at all.

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