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From: Kim Bolton on 24 Mar 2010 10:36 Phil Stovell wrote: >On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:09:25 +0000, Ret. wrote: >> Even if you could do such a thing - it would be pointless without a >> 'person' looking at it for some reason. The system I have described is on >> North West motorways only - and yet there is a projected 'read' of 560,000 >> vehicles *per day*. > >Data volume: > >RegNo 8 bytes >location 8 bytes (at most) >date/time 8 bytes (in microseconds) > >24 * 560,000 = 13MB. Next to nothing. A CD (700MB) would hold nearly 2 >months worth of data to be left on a train. An 8GB memory stick would hold >around 2 years worth. I said further up the thread that it would be the equivalent of storing a handful of digital photos per day - that'll be two photos per day data equivalence. The tools are already available to data mine this for anything that can be thought of. Kev seems to think that this is so difficult as to be unrealistic. -- from Kim Bolton
From: Conor on 24 Mar 2010 10:45 On 24/03/2010 10:01, Bod wrote: > > As I understand it, the police have learned from that mistake and no > longer accept such small quantities as hard evidence. > > Look at it the other way, far more innocent suspects have been > eliminated from police enquiries by using DNA. > Social Services apparently learned from the Victoria Climbie tradgedy yet less than a year after the inquiry, the very same social workers made the same mistake and even this week, we have another story.. -- Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Phil Stovell on 24 Mar 2010 10:45 On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:36:57 +0000, Kim Bolton wrote: > Phil Stovell wrote: > >>On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:09:25 +0000, Ret. wrote: > >>> Even if you could do such a thing - it would be pointless without a >>> 'person' looking at it for some reason. The system I have described is >>> on North West motorways only - and yet there is a projected 'read' of >>> 560,000 vehicles *per day*. >> >>Data volume: >> >>RegNo 8 bytes >>location 8 bytes (at most) >>date/time 8 bytes (in microseconds) >> >>24 * 560,000 = 13MB. Next to nothing. A CD (700MB) would hold nearly 2 >>months worth of data to be left on a train. An 8GB memory stick would >>hold around 2 years worth. > > I said further up the thread that it would be the equivalent of storing > a handful of digital photos per day - that'll be two photos per day data > equivalence. > > The tools are already available to data mine this for anything that can > be thought of. > > Kev seems to think that this is so difficult as to be unrealistic. Also Kev seems to miss the point that the current Government may be benign (arguable), but suppose the BNP, or other extremists, win the election. With all that data at their fingertips, could we trust them not to abuse it?
From: Conor on 24 Mar 2010 10:46 On 24/03/2010 10:04, Ret. wrote: > The 'subjects' for an ID parade are chosen at random off the streets, or > from colleges or workplaces. No they're not. They are picked for specific identifiers such as skin colour. -- Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Cynic on 24 Mar 2010 10:46
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:03:31 +0000, Mike Scott <usenet.12(a)spam.stopper.scottsonline.org.uk> wrote: >It seems a perfect example of the fact that "something unlikely" is >actually extremely probable to happen. The trick is simply to select the >"unlikely" event /after/ the fact. Too many do not understand this. A couple of days ago I threw a spent AA battery toward my waste paper bin several meters away. It hit the rim of the bin, bounced back against the side of my computer monitor, and landed absolutely perfectly in a half-finished cup of tea right in front of me. The probability of such a thing happening by pure chance must be astronomical, so the evidence suggests BRD that it was my deliberate intent and that I had aimed the missile extremely well. -- Cynic |