From: Conor on
On 24/03/2010 10:05, Ret. wrote:

> I never said that - but ID parade 'stooges' are simply selected,
> according to certain physical traits (height, hair colour, age, etc) off
> the streets or from colleges,

You said it was random. That is not random.

Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Conor on
On 24/03/2010 10:17, Ret. wrote:

> I can provide links to dozens of articles listing the successes of ANPR
> in detecting crime and removing unlicensed and uninsured cars off the
> road. All you can do is come up with fanciful and imaginary scenarios.
> Why not applaud the immense benefits that these systems are bringing?

They are neither fanciful or imaginary.

They do not remove unlicenced and uninsured cars off the road, they
merely notify they have been used.

Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Vernon on
On 24/03/2010 08:24, Theodore wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:44:58 +0000, Vernon<big_vernie(a)>
> wrote:
>>> The point I am trying to make is that the lives of the vast majority of
>>> the motoring public are totally innocuous and, as such, the police have
>>> not the slightest interest into checking where they are going.
>>> Kev
>> So there is a knock at the door, can you tell us where you were xx
>> months ago? You say no, they ask if you have ever been to so-and-so you
>> say not that I can remember. Wrong answer, they already know you have
>> been there as they have your registration, so therefore you have lied to
>> them, next question why did you not come forward to eliminate yourself
>>from our enquiries..... oh dear doesn't look good does it, and all
>> because a database recorded your car (or a clone of your car) XX months
>> ago in the area where some serious crime occurred.
>> It has always suprised me that the police have not yet installed ANPR
>> cameras on all roads in and out of towns, real easy to produce a list of
>> possibles from that.
> I thought they already had (blue cameras everywhere in
> Nottingham/Leiceser for example).
> The guy convicted for those murders of five prostitutes in Suffolk had
> his registration recorded on ANPR cameras too.

Well in our town, local neighbourhood watch are warning people about
white vans cruising the area stealing copper piping. Town centre is on
CCTV, housing estates on edge are not. Now where do you see police on
foot patrolling? common sense would say housing estates, maybe catch
white van man? Nope wrong answer, apparently he is better deployed on
foot patrolling in the town centre. To me that smacks of " we know it's
pikeys nicking the stuff and it is too difficult to deal with them, so
we will avoid them" see if we can get someone for littering in the town
centre or riding their bike on the pavement. There is very little crime
around here, you would think they would be all over like a rash trying
to catch the thieves in the act.

From: AlanG on
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:05:45 +0000 (UTC), boltar2003(a)

>On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:51:52 +0000
>AlanG <invalid(a)> wrote:
>>On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:27:07 +0000, Conor <conor(a)> wrote:
>>>On 23/03/2010 20:04, Ret. wrote:
>>>> These are simply traffic census points. Intended to discover traffic
>>>> flow along a particular road and where it is coming from and going to -
>>>> usually with the aim of improving local roads. Being rude and
>>>> uncooperative is self-defeating.
>>>What does where I've come from have to do with traffic flow? What does
>>>who I am working for have to do with traffic flow? What does what I'm
>>>carrying have to do with traffic flow? What does my name have to do with
>>>traffic flow?
>>>Surely, all it needs is those people you see sat at the side of a road
>>>in pairs with a counter counting the traffic by category?
>>Not even that. They used an ANPR system here last year and publicised
>>what they were doing. (nice of them) Set a couple of portable cameras
>>up at two points and collected all the data. All automated
>Here in london there are a lot of UK nationals driving foreign registered
>cars and even some RHD cars on foreign plates. The autorities with their
>obsession with tracking only have themselves to blame. No surprise people
>don't bother updating their details with the DVLA until they really have to.
I would like to know how gypsies and other nomadic residents get away
with this. Is there one law for them and another for those of us who
live in houses?
From: Cynic on
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:35:52 +0000 (UTC), boltar2003(a)

>If these people really do believe that tired old mantra that if you have
>nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about then why do they have
>curtains at home?

Or put their letters inside envelopes rather than always using a