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"GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message
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>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message
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>>>>> "Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>>>> On 26/05/2010 17:33, GT wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> - How come lorries can stop within 6 inches of my rear bumper at
>>>>>>> traffic
>>>>>>> lights then?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because they don't. Get out and look next time. You'll find its a lot
>>>>>> further than 6 inches.
>>>>>
>>>> At traffic lights or road junction with a "Give Way" or "Stop" line, do
>>>> you stop when the white line is about to disappear from your view or do
>>>> you pull up so that the front of your vehicle is on the line? If the
>>>> latter, how do you know where to stop?
>>>
>>> Simple - I stop at the line. The reason I know where to stop is that I
>>> can see the line out of my side 'A' window. Being able to see something
>>> enables me to know where it is.
>>
>> And what leads you to believe that lorry drivers don't use a similar
>> technique so that they know how close they can stop behind a car?
>
> Because the 'line' that you talk about can be seen through the side window
> of a car.

Are you suggesting that it can't be seen through a lorry's side window?

> You can't see what is directly in front of you in a truck - you already
> told us that.
Just as you can't see what is hidden in front of your bonnet, but you still
manage to stop on the white line.


From: Adrian on
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

> It got silly when you started going on about things of which you know
> nothing.

Might just as well shut Usenet down, eh?
From: GT on
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>>>> Because CTM and others
>>>
>>> Sorry, I got the attribution wrong.
>>>
>>> Make that "GT and others".
>>
>> You still got your attribution wrong!!
>> I think you should make a point of reading all posts before getting
>> personal - you just embarassed yourself again. Had you bothered to read
>> my posts, you would know that I agreed that she was to blame and that she
>> should have "at least given dangerous driving points), although I
>> suspect it will be a while before she goes on a motorway again anyway"
>>
>> You have quoted me here because you think I'm 'anti-lorry'. The argument
>> we are having on another subthread here is about the physics of the event
>> and the opinion I have formed is based on those physics. You have yet to
>> quote any fact to support your opposing opinion and refuse to admit that
>> the facts prove your opinion wrong!
> As I said elsewhere, what makes you think your theoretical models outweigh
> the real world, which is what a number of people are basing their
> arguments on? Your the only one relying on theory.

This is dealt with in the other thread - I have *no* theoretical models,
only proven scientific fact. It is you that has no real world argument to
support your opinion. You haven't even come up with a theory yet!


From: Brimstone on
"GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message
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>> On 27/05/2010 09:53, GT wrote:
>>
>>>> To the side of it. Noise is always louder to the side.
>>>
>>> In whos world?
>>
>> Everyones. I've been in the Army. A rifle being fired sounds a shitload
>> louder to the person to the side of it than the person firing it.
>
> That's simply not true.
How do you know?


From: GT on
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Man at B&Q" <manatbandq(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On May 27, 10:24 am, boltar2...(a)boltar.world wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 May 2010 09:52:27 +0100
>>>
>>> "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >Because CTM and others a) know best and b) want to slag off a lorry
>>> >driver
>>> >despite it being a car driver who caused the incident in the first
>>> >place.
>>>
>>> Yes the car driver was an idiot. But she made a momentary mistake. The
>>> lorry
>>> drivers mistake went on for minutes.
>>
>> Boltar failed to indent:
>> "What mistake was that then? Not having x-ray vision?"
>>
>> No, clearly humans do not have x-ray vision. His mistake was failing to
>> stop immediately after he collided into the car
>
> If he didn't know that there had been a collision why would he stop?

You use the word 'if' as a reasoned argument? He did know about the
collision.

>> and felt the substantial loss in power
>
> How do you know that he would have felt a loss in power?

We have already established that - go back and re-read older posts.

>> and heard the tyre screaching
>
> How do you know he heard the tyres screaching (sic)?

The only way he would not have heard the noise would be if he were deaf.
There is no mention of this fundamental fact in the reports, I therefore
assumed he was not deaf.

>> and the sound of multiple car horns directed at him.
>
> How does anyone know that that people blasting their horns are trying to
> attract their attention?

Perhaps not the first horn, but after a few horns, any alert driver is going
to wonder what is going on!