You tube (shunt) lorry driver keeps his HGV licence
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From: Brimstone on 27 May 2010 07:12 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4bfe50bd$0$17492$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:ELmdncLQUY4I1mPWnZ2dnUVZ7oqdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >> news:4bfe4319$0$17517$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:IvKdnfAc4PMMqGPWnZ2dnUVZ8kidnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:caidncJm9MRNr2PWnZ2dnUVZ7t2dnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>> >>>>> Because CTM and others >>>> >>>> Sorry, I got the attribution wrong. >>>> >>>> Make that "GT and others". >>> >>> You still got your attribution wrong!! >>> I think you should make a point of reading all posts before getting >>> personal - you just embarassed yourself again. Had you bothered to read >>> my posts, you would know that I agreed that she was to blame and that >>> she should have "at least given dangerous driving points), although I >>> suspect it will be a while before she goes on a motorway again anyway" >>> >>> You have quoted me here because you think I'm 'anti-lorry'. The argument >>> we are having on another subthread here is about the physics of the >>> event and the opinion I have formed is based on those physics. You have >>> yet to quote any fact to support your opposing opinion and refuse to >>> admit that the facts prove your opinion wrong! >> As I said elsewhere, what makes you think your theoretical models >> outweigh the real world, which is what a number of people are basing >> their arguments on? Your the only one relying on theory. > > This is dealt with in the other thread - I have *no* theoretical models, > only proven scientific fact. It is you that has no real world argument to > support your opinion. Now who is guilty of not reading posts? I offered the facts as a sequence of events some while ago. You haven't even come up with a theory yet! > Why is a theory needed when the facts are to hand?
From: Brimstone on 27 May 2010 07:16 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4bfe5181$0$17493$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:wLadnW5Udb2T0GPWnZ2dnUVZ8qCdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >> news:4bfe43b7$0$17479$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> "Man at B&Q" <manatbandq(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:785f0c82-1de8-4b98-b181-2105ba1eb90a(a)6g2000prg.googlegroups.com... >>> On May 27, 10:24 am, boltar2...(a)boltar.world wrote: >>>> On Thu, 27 May 2010 09:52:27 +0100 >>>> >>>> "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >Because CTM and others a) know best and b) want to slag off a lorry >>>> >driver >>>> >despite it being a car driver who caused the incident in the first >>>> >place. >>>> >>>> Yes the car driver was an idiot. But she made a momentary mistake. The >>>> lorry >>>> drivers mistake went on for minutes. >>> >>> Boltar failed to indent: >>> "What mistake was that then? Not having x-ray vision?" >>> >>> No, clearly humans do not have x-ray vision. His mistake was failing to >>> stop immediately after he collided into the car >> >> If he didn't know that there had been a collision why would he stop? > > You use the word 'if' as a reasoned argument? It was a question. > He did know about the collision. At what point? >>> and felt the substantial loss in power >> >> How do you know that he would have felt a loss in power? > > We have already established that - go back and re-read older posts. We know what your theory is, we don't know that he really did. >>> and heard the tyre screaching >> >> How do you know he heard the tyres screaching (sic)? > > The only way he would not have heard the noise would be if he were deaf. Any evidence to support that view? Not theory, hard evidence please. > There is no mention of this fundamental fact in the reports, I therefore > assumed he was not deaf. > >>> and the sound of multiple car horns directed at him. >> >> How does anyone know that that people blasting their horns are trying to >> attract their attention? > > Perhaps not the first horn, but after a few horns, any alert driver is > going to wonder what is going on! And how many of the other "alert drivers" in the vicinity stopped to check that there was nothing wrong with their vehicles?
From: Brimstone on 27 May 2010 07:18 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4bfe5244$0$17490$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:gYOdnatc5sSyzWPWnZ2dnUVZ7tmdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >> news:4bfe4d0b$0$17513$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:N9ydneDT6si712PWnZ2dnUVZ8nudnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>>> news:4bfe4107$0$17486$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:svqdndiShcXdqGPWnZ2dnUVZ8m6dnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4bfe331f$0$17498$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>>>>> "Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:865t7kFr7cU9(a)mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>> On 26/05/2010 17:33, GT wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - How come lorries can stop within 6 inches of my rear bumper at >>>>>>>>> traffic >>>>>>>>> lights then? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Because they don't. Get out and look next time. You'll find its a >>>>>>>> lot further than 6 inches. >>>>>>> >>>>>> At traffic lights or road junction with a "Give Way" or "Stop" line, >>>>>> do you stop when the white line is about to disappear from your view >>>>>> or do you pull up so that the front of your vehicle is on the line? >>>>>> If the latter, how do you know where to stop? >>>>> >>>>> Simple - I stop at the line. The reason I know where to stop is that I >>>>> can see the line out of my side 'A' window. Being able to see >>>>> something enables me to know where it is. >>>> >>>> And what leads you to believe that lorry drivers don't use a similar >>>> technique so that they know how close they can stop behind a car? >>> >>> Because the 'line' that you talk about can be seen through the side >>> window of a car. >> >> Are you suggesting that it can't be seen through a lorry's side window? > > No. I'm suggesting that you and Conor have told us that a truck driver > can't see what is immediately in front of him. If you are now telling us > that the driver could see the car through his side window, then you have > rather destroyed your already flawed argument! You told us that you can't see a white stop line directly in front of your car. But, you have devised a method for stopping with your bonnet close to at the line at a junction. Why should a lorry driver be significantly different?
From: Brimstone on 27 May 2010 07:21 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4bfe5264$0$17522$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:TbWdnXNwWqMEzWPWnZ2dnUVZ8lednZ2d(a)bt.com... >> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>>>> No thanks - I'll stick with using my mirrors and turning round to look >>>>> where I'm reversing. That is how I did it when I passed my driving >>>>> test and it works for me and everyone else. You continue to use 'the >>>>> force' if you want, but god help the child that walks behind you while >>>>> you are doing it! >>>> But you still can't see anything directly under the rear of the car >>>> when reversing, so how do you know where to stop? >>>> >>> I hear a screeching noise! >> So you park using the resistance method, when the object you've just hit >> fails to move you must be in the right place? >> > No that was sarcasm - sorry to confuse you! Woooossshhh!!
From: Brimstone on 27 May 2010 07:22
"GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4bfe529b$0$17517$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:EpidnUNg6bdezWPWnZ2dnUVZ8tWdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >> news:4bfe46e0$0$17524$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> "Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:866u5aF87fU6(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> On 27/05/2010 09:53, GT wrote: >>>> >>>>>> To the side of it. Noise is always louder to the side. >>>>> >>>>> In whos world? >>>> >>>> Everyones. I've been in the Army. A rifle being fired sounds a shitload >>>> louder to the person to the side of it than the person firing it. >>> >>> That's simply not true. >> How do you know? > I just do. How do you know otherwise? Whether I know otherwise is irrelevant. I'm asking you to back up your assertion. |