You tube (shunt) lorry driver keeps his HGV licence
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From: Brimstone on 27 May 2010 12:37 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4bfe9629$0$10329$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:tPadncplJPPhCWPWnZ2dnUVZ8mudnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >> news:4bfe93e8$0$10318$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:l7WdncvTteLTDGPWnZ2dnUVZ7smdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>>> news:4bfe74bf$0$10300$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>>> "Man at B&Q" <manatbandq(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:3a6236a1-cfde-4278-90bb-81e6f0637636(a)s1g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>>>> On May 27, 11:38 am, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> I'm criticising the lorry driver because he should have stopped >>>>> >>>>> MBQ failed to indent properly: >>>>> " >>>>> OH! He did! he was even praised for his subsequent behaviour. >>>>> " >>>>> >>>>> Nobody questioned that - its the amount of time from the 'joining of >>>>> vehicles' to the stopping that is the problem. >>>> >>>> Only for you. Those with knowledge and experience of such things found >>>> that it wasn't a problem. >>> >>> Nobody with experience of such things has yet posted anything, so you're >>> wrong there! >> So the words of the Traffic Commissioner count for nothing? > You are implying that the traffic commissioner has experience of driving a > truck with a car attached to its front - I don't think he would have made > it as far as traffic commissioner if that were the case!!! Oh dear.
From: Brimstone on 27 May 2010 12:38 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4bfe95d4$0$10334$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3fCdnY5Pq7q-D2PWnZ2dnUVZ8hGdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >> news:4bfe7464$0$10292$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> "Man at B&Q" <manatbandq(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:087a203b-560c-483c-90ff-9097c0a7d9f4(a)11g2000prv.googlegroups.com... >>> On May 27, 11:30 am, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >>>> "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> >>>> news:s-mdnSZ1j58V1GPWnZ2dnUVZ8nWdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>> >>>> > <boltar2...(a)boltar.world> wrote in message >>>> >news:htldfr$6gk$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >>>> >> On Thu, 27 May 2010 10:09:10 +0100 >>>> >> "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well mine has about 350 but thats beside the point. The noise of >>>> >>>> hitting >>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>> cone and the scraping sound would have been a giveaway if I hadn't >>>> >>>> seen >>>> >>>> it >>>> >>>> already (cone knocked over by another vehicle in roadworks , going >>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>> fast >>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>> swerve , not an interesting tale). >>>> >>>> >>>What if you hadn't seen it and the collision was so gentle that >>>> >>>there was >>>> >>>no >>>> >>>noise transmitted to you? >>>> >>>> >> Then I wouldn't have heard the initial bang. But I'd still have >>>> >> heard the >>>> >> scraping sound coming from under the car. >>>> >>>> > How do you know beyond all reasonable doubt that you would have heard >>>> > it? >>>> >>>> Because it is audible on the video clip which is recorded on a low >>>> quality, >>>> low sensitivity microphone >>> >>> MBQ failed to indent his post: >>> " >>> So what's the frequency response of that "low quality, low >>> sensitivity" microphone? How does it corrspond to the frequencies >>> being emitted from (a) the scraping of the car (b) the engine noise? >>> " >>> >>> The frequency response of mobile phone mics are typically between 300 >>> hertz and 3,400 hertz, which is somewhere between the high pitched >>> squeel of tyres on tarmac and the low gritty noise of a large diesel >>> engine. Despite the noises being outwith the phone's sensitive response >>> range, the phone would picked up both noises with equal sensitivity. >>> >> The only thing audible in the clip is a possible bit of wind noise, some >> muffled sounds from the interior of the observer's car and the comment >> from one of the occupants. >> >> What do you think can be heard? > > Wind noise at the start, until he closes his window, then the tyres > screeching can be best heard between 9 and 11 seconds through that clip > (through the glass as we previously established). If what you say is correct, why can't we hear the car tyres screeching with the window open?
From: Brimstone on 27 May 2010 12:39 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4bfe94f0$0$10334$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:k76dnWBSw64nDmPWnZ2dnUVZ8nOdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >> news:4bfe701a$0$10331$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:5MednbJe8JpB9WPWnZ2dnUVZ8m2dnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>>> news:4bfe6469$0$5477$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:YNKdnbXS6L7lyWPWnZ2dnUVZ7tCdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4bfe5181$0$17493$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>> >>>>>>> Perhaps not the first horn, but after a few horns, any alert driver >>>>>>> is going to wonder what is going on! >>>>>> And how many of the other "alert drivers" in the vicinity stopped to >>>>>> check that there was nothing wrong with their vehicles? >>>>> >>>>> I should imagine a lot of other drivers checked round them to see if >>>>> something was wrong, but none of them found another vehicle pinned to >>>>> the front of theirs making a terrible screeching noise, smoking from >>>>> its tyres and slowing them down. >>>>> >>>> How do you know the lorry driver didn't look around and see nothing >>>> amiss? >>> >>> You don't really need an answer to that, do you?? OK! If he had looked >>> about a bit, he would have spotted that there was a car stuck to the >>> front of his truck!! >> >> How can he see what's that close in front when it's out of his line of >> sight, are you suggesting that he should leave his seat and walk round >> whilst bowling along the m/way at 56 mph? > > No, I though perhaps he might lean forward a little and see what he had > just hit when he felt the shunt and subsequent loss of power. (sigh) Again, what leads you to suppose that he felt the collisions and loss of power, apart from your pet theories?
From: Brimstone on 27 May 2010 12:40 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4bfe9522$0$10298$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:B9CdnTRel4qJCWPWnZ2dnUVZ7tOdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >> news:4bfe7122$0$10314$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:x-ednatbItIO9WPWnZ2dnUVZ8uGdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>>> news:4bfe6501$0$5486$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:YNKdnbXS6L7lyWPWnZ2dnUVZ7tCdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4bfe5181$0$17493$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>> >>>>>>> The only way he would not have heard the noise would be if he were >>>>>>> deaf. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any evidence to support that view? Not theory, hard evidence please. >>>>> >>>>> You want evidence, watch the video. No science needed to explain the >>>>> noise - its coming from the car as it is dragged along and the noise >>>>> is louder than the engine. >>>>> >>>> That's from outside the vehicle. We're discussing events inside. >>> >>> I think you'll find that the car was outside the vehicle - perhaps you >>> should watch the clip again. >>> >>>> Care to try again? >>> >>> Q: Can you hear a trucks engine noise from inside the cab? >>> A: yes >>> >>> Q: Is the car tyre noise louder than the engine noise when compared from >>> an equal distance? >>> A: yes - check the clip. >>> >>> Q: Given than the car noise is louder than the engine noise and that >>> they both originate from sources pretty much the same distance from the >>> driver's ears, which would be louder? >>> A: The tyre noise >>> >>> This can all be gathered by watching the clip (with your brain turned >>> on). >> The clip in the OP has no sound from outside the observer's car. > > Watch it again with your speaker turned on!! Maybe you have spent too long > in a noisy cab and now you are deaf too? Ho ho, very amusing.
From: bod on 27 May 2010 12:43
Brimstone wrote: > "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message > news:4bfe9522$0$10298$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:B9CdnTRel4qJCWPWnZ2dnUVZ7tOdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>> news:4bfe7122$0$10314$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:x-ednatbItIO9WPWnZ2dnUVZ8uGdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>>>> news:4bfe6501$0$5486$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:YNKdnbXS6L7lyWPWnZ2dnUVZ7tCdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>>>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:4bfe5181$0$17493$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>>> >>>>>>>> The only way he would not have heard the noise would be if he >>>>>>>> were deaf. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any evidence to support that view? Not theory, hard evidence please. >>>>>> >>>>>> You want evidence, watch the video. No science needed to explain >>>>>> the noise - its coming from the car as it is dragged along and the >>>>>> noise is louder than the engine. >>>>>> >>>>> That's from outside the vehicle. We're discussing events inside. >>>> >>>> I think you'll find that the car was outside the vehicle - perhaps >>>> you should watch the clip again. >>>> >>>>> Care to try again? >>>> >>>> Q: Can you hear a trucks engine noise from inside the cab? >>>> A: yes >>>> >>>> Q: Is the car tyre noise louder than the engine noise when compared >>>> from an equal distance? >>>> A: yes - check the clip. >>>> >>>> Q: Given than the car noise is louder than the engine noise and that >>>> they both originate from sources pretty much the same distance from >>>> the driver's ears, which would be louder? >>>> A: The tyre noise >>>> >>>> This can all be gathered by watching the clip (with your brain >>>> turned on). >>> The clip in the OP has no sound from outside the observer's car. >> >> Watch it again with your speaker turned on!! Maybe you have spent too >> long in a noisy cab and now you are deaf too? > Ho ho, very amusing. > > > Or should that be....Daf? :) Bod |