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From: Clocky on 12 Mar 2010 05:24 Noddy wrote: > "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message > news:4b99b7e5$0$27851$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > >> The features I'm talking about are things like cruise, ESP, traction >> control etc. Yes emissions are just one consideration but certainly >> not the ony one. > > I agree. It certainly makes all of those things easier to implement, > but also shitloads cheaper. > > Just out of curiosity, why does ESP need to have throttle control? As > far as I'm aware the only function it has is brake control by way of > limiting brake pressure to the wheels it thinks it needs to, unless > it wants to cut the throttle to idle if a car gets sideways while the > driver's foot is still on the loud pedal (in which case there's a > perfect reason *not* to have it). Traction control and ESP go hand in hand. Yes throttle control is part of ESP because it may need to reduce engine power where required to maintain traction. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_stability_control#Operation
From: Noddy on 12 Mar 2010 05:39 "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message news:4b9a1655$0$27797$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > Traction control and ESP go hand in hand. Yes throttle control is part of > ESP because it may need to reduce engine power where required to maintain > traction. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_stability_control#Operation Thought that might be the case. Fitting it to a performance car is a complete waste of time then :) -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Albm&ctd on 12 Mar 2010 08:19 In article <4b985edc$0$66787$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net>, me(a)home.com says... > outstanding reliability. > Did you ever work for a Toyota dealer like I have for a short while? Lemme see, while there, there was the brake recall.. the transfer and gearbox oil problem and even one that backed off the transporter and crack, someone had dropped a bolt in the transmission. Another didn't have any oil in the gearbox. That silly old DeeZee reckons you don't need dealers, just buy from the manurefucker :-) Al -- I don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html
From: Clocky on 12 Mar 2010 10:14 Noddy wrote: > "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message > news:4b9a1655$0$27797$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > >> Traction control and ESP go hand in hand. Yes throttle control is >> part of ESP because it may need to reduce engine power where >> required to maintain traction. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_stability_control#Operation > > Thought that might be the case. > > Fitting it to a performance car is a complete waste of time then :) There is always the off button ;-)
From: hippo on 12 Mar 2010 19:28
Clocky wrote: > > Noddy wrote: > > "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message > > news:4b9a1655$0$27797$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > > > >> Traction control and ESP go hand in hand. Yes throttle control is > >> part of ESP because it may need to reduce engine power where > >> required to maintain traction. > >> > >> http://fat.ly/v4w14 > > > > Thought that might be the case. > > > > Fitting it to a performance car is a complete waste of time then :) > > There is always the off button ;-) > > > > True that, and to Noddy's comment, TVR could hardly be said to make pedestrian cars and they still fit less electronic driver overrides, oops, safety systems, than nearly any other manufacturer around. Mind you, there are plenty of people who've argued that they whould maybe fit more.... -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au |