From: Tom Anderson on
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, NM wrote:

> Point 1, Why allow bikes on trains that are very busy.

They don't:

http://www.nationalexpresseastanglia.com/on_board_trains/baggage_information/cycle_carriage

But it seems they don't consider the trains arriving at 0615 to be very
busy.

Seriously though, who on earth arrives at Liverpool Street at 0615? If you
are doing this regularly, you need to reexamine your life choices.

tom

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From: OG on

"Tom Anderson" <twic(a)urchin.earth.li> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, Neil Williams wrote:
>
>> On 9 Dec, 13:41, "Paul Rigg" <gzero...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> 2 Have compulsory insurance
>>
>> You are presumably aware that most cyclists have third-party liability
>> insurance cover which is provided to any inhabitant of their home as
>> part of their home contents insurance? It's not mandatory, OK, but I
>> would think that more people have home contents insurance than not.
>
> I'd love to see some statistics on that, as i suspect it's not the case. I
> suspect most people who rent aren't insured, and an awful lot of people
> rent. I also suspect that the cycling demographic is skewed towards the
> young and the urban, which will mean it overrepresents renters.
>
> Of course, mostly what i'm doing here is extrapolating from a sample of
> one (and kidding myself that i'm still young).
>

You don't have contents insurance?

From: "MatSav" matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot | pipex | dot | on
"Paul Rigg" <gzerotvb(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> "> Just ban them [bicycles] altogether.
>>
>
> Certainly with you on that one Tony, getting a bit sick of the
> cycling mafia.
>
> They should have to
>
> ... Have them confiscated if found riding the pavement or
> otherwise disobeying traffic regulations, which would certainly
> include riding on station platforms.

Platforms are not highways, so [Road] Traffic Regulations don't
generally apply. However, there are almost certainly byelaws that
do apply.

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MatSav


From: Neil Williams on
On 9 Dec, 21:54, Tom Anderson <t...(a)urchin.earth.li> wrote:

> Seriously though, who on earth arrives at Liverpool Street at 0615? If you
> are doing this regularly, you need to reexamine your life choices.

Probably shift workers which is fair enough, but also I imagine
"bankers", who are as we are all aware paid well for it. Though I
wouldn't do that for a long period for any money - an 0800ish arrival
in London is quite early enough for me.

Neil
From: Neil Williams on
On 9 Dec, 21:49, Tom Anderson <t...(a)urchin.earth.li> wrote:

> I'd love to see some statistics on that, as i suspect it's not the case. I
> suspect most people who rent aren't insured

Would you think?

Many young professionals who are renting (that'll be a fair chunk of
them) probably have an expensive laptop and a big telly at least.
Those things aren't cheap to replace. Though many cyclists will also
be at the lower-income end, and despite these people being those who
most need insurance (as a lump sum to replace a load of things at once
would be a big problem) they are often those who are least likely to
have it, I suppose.

It is interesting that out-of-home third party liability is covered by
home insurance, though - I imagine many people don't know that. Maybe
if it were a separate piece of cover like it is in Germany (one that
they consider quite important) people might be more aware of it.

Neil
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