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From: Brimstone on 8 Jul 2010 03:18 "Doug" <smithx(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:526d94cb-568a-4333-aa6f-54b58aed1456(a)d16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > On 7 July, 18:11, JNugent <jennings...(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: >> Doug wrote: >> > "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> [ ... ] >> >> >>> BTW, I understand you are also disabled but use a car. Why not an >> >>> electric bike which has much less adverse impact on the environment >> >>> and public health? >> >> No where to keep such a machine, as previously discussed. >> > You can store a bike almost anywhere, unlike a car. >> >> Yes, but you can go almost anywhere in a car, and you can't on a bike >> (not in >> a reasonable time, anyway). >> > You should see me zooming past traffic jams. For longer distances I > put my bike on an electric train. So all of my transportation is > electric now. No nasty, smelly, polluting, energy wasting ICEs. > It's still more polluting than using an ordinary pushbike though, isn't it Doug?
From: Mike P on 8 Jul 2010 03:32 "Doug" <smithx(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:526d94cb-568a-4333-aa6f-54b58aed1456(a)d16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > On 7 July, 18:11, JNugent <jennings...(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: >> Doug wrote: >> > "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> [ ... ] >> >> >>> BTW, I understand you are also disabled but use a car. Why not an >> >>> electric bike which has much less adverse impact on the environment >> >>> and public health? >> >> No where to keep such a machine, as previously discussed. >> > You can store a bike almost anywhere, unlike a car. >> >> Yes, but you can go almost anywhere in a car, and you can't on a bike >> (not in >> a reasonable time, anyway). >> > You should see me zooming past traffic jams. For longer distances I > put my bike on an electric train. So all of my transportation is > electric now. No nasty, smelly, polluting, energy wasting ICEs. You silly old goat. How is the electricity generated? Is it all from a windfarm in your garden, or does it come from a coal fired or nuclear power station? I wonder.. -- Mike P
From: Mike P on 8 Jul 2010 03:34 "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1rxjs8ww3bfkj$.1gtm1gpvp1nbl$.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 09:16:38 -0700 (PDT), Doug wrote: > >>> No where to keep such a machine, as previously discussed. >>> >> You can store a bike almost anywhere, unlike a car. > > this is all a fairly obvious windup. I find the bike problem is not where > to leave it but the fact is often not there when you come back. It's not. Doug really does think like this -- Mike P
From: Mike P on 8 Jul 2010 03:36 "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1c4a0a2ae25ts.i5ihwknioc3z.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 23:31:17 +0100, Mrcheerful wrote: > >> so how come a single horse or a man can move a canal boat, even when >> fully >> loaded, and even a very low power motor will do the job quite nicely. >> show >> me a plane that can get going or keep going with just a horsepower or so. >> even when canal boats went internal combustion they only had about 4 >> horsepower. > > thats as good a proof as we need. I can move a loaded narrowboat on the > end > of a rope, I cannot keep that weight up in the air. It's the lift innit? I bet if you had a good strong wind providing some lift, you could pull a glider on the end of a rope along in the air ;-) -- Mike P
From: Albert T Cone on 8 Jul 2010 04:18
Chelsea Tractor Man wrote: > On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 18:11:28 +0100, JNugent wrote: > >>> You can store a bike almost anywhere, unlike a car. >> Yes, but you can go almost anywhere in a car, and you can't on a bike (not in >> a reasonable time, anyway). > > bikes are only any good for inner cities. I beg to differ. A lot of people seem happy with a 40-minute commute, which equates to about 15 miles by bike, once you have done it enough to get fit. We use bikes for anything up to 50 mile each-way days out. The bike is not a replacement for a car, which is why I use both, but they are eminently suitable for using in the countryside > A bike holiday becomes an end in itself, not a means of transport. Why? How much driving, in terms of distance, do you do when you are on holiday? A couple of hours in the saddle lets you travel 30 miles, so you can cover a region quite nicely on a touring holiday, whilst having plenty of time to stop and look at anything of interest - in fact you see an awful lot more and it is much easier to stop and look at things than it is in a car *and* you aren't continually frustrated by hoards of 40mph dawdlers spoiling a potentially nice drive. All that said, I would tend to get the bikes to a region by car, because PT is horrendously slow and expensive to get to anywhere nice. |