From: Nick Finnigan on
Chelsea Tractor Man wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:56:37 +0100, Nick Finnigan wrote:
>
>
> ship noise does not blight the lives of millions.

Because millions don't use them.

> I have never not got a seat on a boat.

I have.

>On long ferry rides you have a cabin, how much would that cost on a plane?

Not necessarily, and a long ferry ride is a negligible plane ride.

> The view on most ships isn't limited, its excellent. Especially compared to
> a non window seat on a plane.

You can see some water. If you have a seat. Which is near a window.

>> What figures for passengers have you found ?
>
> the ones I found and posted in multiple posts

Where?

> you are missing the point completely. Its the *vehicles* that are the load,
> the passengers are marginal. Think about loading an HGV on a ferry, think
> about how little difference a second driver will make. The emissions relate
> to carrying the vehicles, not the passengers.

The emission relate to the ship itself, the load is irrelevant.
From: Steve Firth on
Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:42:04 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
>
> >>> That would be a start, but I fear it's too late for you as your mindless
> >>> trolling proved.
> >>
> >> oh dear
> >
> > Trying to forget your past are you "Mike"?
>
> Why would I need to?

Because it was a shameful record of a moronic troll.

> "Steve"

How d^Htroll.
From: Colin McKenzie on
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:18:06 +0100, Chelsea Tractor Man
<mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 15:32:30 +0100, Mrcheerful wrote:
>
>> Put some sails up and that fuel bill could be much reduced.
>
> seems set to happen from what I read.

It's been talked about since the 70s. Oil is probably still too cheap for
shipowners to be willing to stump up the extra capital cost for sails or
solar panels.

Colin McKenzie


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From: Steve Firth on
Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>
> ferries look to be somewhere near planes on "gross" CO2, but when you
> multiply x4 for the emmission effect at altitude, as usual, planes are far
> worse.

Heck, if I multiply your stupidty by some imaginary number, I determine
that there are bacteria with a greater IQ than you.
From: Nick Finnigan on
Chelsea Tractor Man wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:01:27 +0100, Chelsea Tractor Man wrote:
>
>>> Where?
>> the string of consecutive posts from me.
>
> ferries look to be somewhere near planes on "gross" CO2, but when you
> multiply x4 for the emmission effect at altitude, as usual, planes are far
> worse.

There are no figures for passengers there: I mean something like 220ml
per passenger km, for a particular vessel; not 'somewhere near'.
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