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From: Doug on 8 Jul 2010 02:13 On 7 July, 18:11, JNugent <jennings...(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: > Doug wrote: > > "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > [ ... ] > > >>> BTW, I understand you are also disabled but use a car. Why not an > >>> electric bike which has much less adverse impact on the environment > >>> and public health? > >> No where to keep such a machine, as previously discussed. > > You can store a bike almost anywhere, unlike a car. > > Yes, but you can go almost anywhere in a car, and you can't on a bike (not in > a reasonable time, anyway). > You should see me zooming past traffic jams. For longer distances I put my bike on an electric train. So all of my transportation is electric now. No nasty, smelly, polluting, energy wasting ICEs. Doug.
From: Adrian on 8 Jul 2010 02:18 Doug <smithx(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > You should see me zooming past traffic jams. Really? And should a pedestrian step out from between two stationary vehicles...? > For longer distances I put my bike on an electric train. So all of my > transportation is electric now. No nasty, smelly, polluting, energy > wasting ICEs. Where's your electricity come from, Duhg? Are you on a "green" tariff yet?
From: Adrian on 8 Jul 2010 02:36 Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > I find the places I like to go are not served well by trains. You're clearly going to the wrong places, then...
From: Brimstone on 8 Jul 2010 03:14 "Doug" <smithx(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:e8634e1b-6ddf-4d51-93fe-8374d7fbe023(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com... > On 7 July, 17:50, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> "Doug" <smi...(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message >> >> news:3ce01a3d-4e76-422a-a638-a8b391b0a62b(a)i28g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... >> >> > On 7 July, 10:46, "Man at B&Q" <manatba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Jul 7, 8:27 am, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> > "Doug" <smi...(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >news:84108acc-0d80-4f10-bdcf-292273832372(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> > > On 6 July, 19:08, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> "Doug" <smi...(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message >> >> >> > >>news:65c6aa89-896d-44f6-93b7-054f923b0f5b(a)k39g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> > >> > On 6 July, 08:56, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> Environmentalists want people to use electric vehicles and yet >> >> > >> >> they >> >> > >> >> also >> >> > >> >> complain when new power stations are being proposed. Going by >> >> > >> >> this >> >> > >> >> report, >> >> > >> >> there isn't enough generating capacity to support a massive >> >> > >> >> increase >> >> > >> >> in >> >> > >> >> the >> >> > >> >> use of electric vehicles and so new power stations will be >> >> > >> >> needed >> >> > >> >> in >> >> > >> >> addition to replacing those which are worn out and in need of >> >> > >> >> replacement. >> >> >> > >> >>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7874065/Electric-cars-must-b... >> >> >> > >> >> Quote: "Analysts for Saturn Energy calculated that a fuel duty >> >> > >> >> of >> >> > >> >> up >> >> > >> >> to >> >> > >> >> 10p >> >> > >> >> a mile would be required to pay for the extra demand which >> >> > >> >> will >> >> > >> >> be >> >> > >> >> created >> >> > >> >> if the Government's targets on renewable energy are hit. >> >> >> > >> >> The Climate Change Committee has said that 1.7 million >> >> > >> >> electric >> >> > >> >> cars >> >> > >> >> should >> >> > >> >> be on Britain's roads by 2020. " End quote. >> >> >> > >> >> So which is it to be, more electric vehicles and more power >> >> > >> >> stations; >> >> > >> >> or, >> >> > >> >> carry on as we are? >> >> >> > >> > No, just stop travelling and consuming so much per capita. Too >> >> > >> > many >> >> > >> > people are having it too easy and its bad for the planet and >> >> > >> > bad >> >> > >> > for >> >> > >> > less fortunate people. >> >> >> > >> I agree Doug. But, there's just one thing I find puzzling. >> >> >> > >> Why did you buy an electric bicycle? >> >> >> > > Because I have a very painful walking disability. Even so I am >> >> > > still >> >> > > banned from pavements and railway platforms. Of course, I bought >> >> > > an >> >> > > electric bike, instead of the more usual car for the disabled, for >> >> > > obvious reasons. >> >> >> > You already had at least one pedal cycle. Why did you think you >> >> > needed >> >> > an >> >> > electric bike given that it increases the demand for electricity and >> >> > thus >> >> > contributes to the need for more power stations? >> >> >> And what aboput the environmental impact of producing and disposing of >> >> the batteries? >> >> > Probably no worse than a car battery or even better due to difference >> > in size and weight. BTW, Lithium from the batteries can be reclaimed. >> >> But if people didn't insist on buying such frivolous items such as >> battery >> powered bicycles then the question of disposal doesn't arise does it >> Doug? >> >> There is also the question of the effect on the people and localities >> from >> where the ore is mined. Do you have any idea of the devastation being >> caused >> in those places Doug and that they are already running out and >> alternative >> sites will have to be found? >> > You are obviously ill informed, as usual. > > "...The largest reserve base of lithium is in the Salar de Uyuni area > of Bolivia, which has 5.4 million tons. US Geological Survey, > estimates of the production and reserves of lithium in metric tons by > country are in the table. [29][39] > > Contrary to the USGS data in the table, other estimates put Chile's > reserve base at 7,520,000 metric tons of lithium, and Argentina's at > 6,000,000 metric tons.[40]. > > On June 13, 2010, the New York Times reported that "Just this month, > American geologists working with the Pentagon team have been > conducting ground surveys on dry salt lakes in western Afghanistan > where they believe there are large deposits of lithium..." > > That could explain a lot! As I said, it's running out and new deposits are being found, just as with petroleum. >> How can you claim to be eco friendly when you buy such an unnecessary >> item? >> > Because I am using an electric bike instead of a car. You of course, > as a car user by choice, are definitely eco unfriendly. > Both the manufacture of and use of electric bikes causes pollution, just as cars do. As pointed out previously, you are no more eco-friendly than anyone else Doug.
From: Brimstone on 8 Jul 2010 03:16
"Doug" <smithx(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:ac2003cd-b160-4c40-aed5-6c8f023c3243(a)c33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On 7 July, 17:52, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> "Doug" <smi...(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message >> news:9f4f2eb5-3d06-4178-b833-2a2fa449f6e5(a)a30g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... >> > On 7 July, 08:27, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> "Doug" <smi...(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message >> >> > BTW, I understand you are also disabled but use a car. Why not an >> >> > electric bike which has much less adverse impact on the environment >> >> > and public health? >> >> >> No where to keep such a machine, as previously discussed. >> >> > You can store a bike almost anywhere, unlike a car. >> >> Only if you have somewhere to store it. >> > They can be stored on walls. I take it you don't live in a tent? > I don't have any available wall space and a bicycle isn't my idea of decoration. |