From: Brent on
On 2010-06-10, richard <member(a)newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:49:46 -0400, Nate Nagel wrote:
>
>> http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/court-kicks-dwi-case-sets-new-standard
>
> This is all about the milking the cash cow.
> I don't know which state started it, but apparently, they totally forgot
> that "D" in DUI/DWI stands for "DRIVING", not PARKED!
>
> The cash cow only sees that a person is sleeping it off inside a vehicle.
> So therefore, guilty of the crime. What ever happened to "Due Process" and
> the assumption, "Innocent until proven guilty"?

A nanny/parental government that has been given the power to keep us
safe cannot tolerate such old fashioned notions. Serfdom is being safe
and secure in exchange for being ruled over in all aspects of one's
life.

> So why don't cops just go around knocking on doors and testing everyone in
> the home? After all, if one gets drunk in his own home, he COULD possibly
> go out and drive.

That is probably not too far away.

From: T.J. Higgins on
In article <1cwtxn078fjgq.pbgv2lf7t389.dlg(a)40tude.net>, richard wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:49:46 -0400, Nate Nagel wrote:
>
>> http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/court-kicks-dwi-case-sets-new-standard
>
>This is all about the milking the cash cow.
>I don't know which state started it, but apparently, they totally forgot
>that "D" in DUI/DWI stands for "DRIVING", not PARKED!

Most if not all US states have the concept of "actual physical
control." We all know it's BS but we also know about courts vs
common sense.

>The cash cow only sees that a person is sleeping it off inside a vehicle.
>So therefore, guilty of the crime. What ever happened to "Due Process" and
>the assumption, "Innocent until proven guilty"?

Where I live, if you want to sleep it off inside your car, you
have to throw the keys in a ditch. If you have the keys in the
vehicle with you, you are DUI in the eyes of the law. Again, BS.

>So why don't cops just go around knocking on doors and testing everyone in
>the home? After all, if one gets drunk in his own home, he COULD possibly
>go out and drive.

Some years ago I was told by a law enforcement official familiar
with such things that you can be sitting at home on your couch,
drunk, with the keys in your pocket, and technically you are DUI.

--
TJH

tjhiggin.at.hiwaay.dot.net
From: necromancer on
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 08:46:40 -0500,
ernest.p.worrell(a)vernal.equinox.edu (T.J. Higgins) wrote:

>Where I live, if you want to sleep it off inside your car, you
>have to throw the keys in a ditch. If you have the keys in the
>vehicle with you, you are DUI in the eyes of the law. Again, BS.

And then all the thug... errrr.... cop has to do is take the keys from
the ditch, toss them in the open window (you gotta have air to
breathe, right) and then make the arrest....

--
"Well, if crime fighters fight crime and
fire fighters fight fire, what do freedom
fighters fight?"
--George Carlin
From: Criminal Drivers Murder 40,000 Americans a Year on
On Jun 10, 7:46 am, ernest.p.worr...(a)vernal.equinox.edu (T.J. Higgins)
wrote:

>
> Some years ago I was told by a law enforcement official familiar
> with such things that you can be sitting at home on your couch,
> drunk, with the keys in your pocket, and technically you are DUI.
>

So what's the big deal? You just lay the keys on the ground under your
car!!! You can't handle that?
From: Brent on
On 2010-06-10, Criminal Drivers Murder 40,000 Americans a Year <xeton2001(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 10, 7:46�am, ernest.p.worr...(a)vernal.equinox.edu (T.J. Higgins)
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Some years ago I was told by a law enforcement official familiar
>> with such things that you can be sitting at home on your couch,
>> drunk, with the keys in your pocket, and technically you are DUI.
>>
>
> So what's the big deal? You just lay the keys on the ground under your
> car!!! You can't handle that?

That's no different than the passenger seat or any where else where one
can get them.