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From: Tony Harding on 2 Apr 2010 02:53 On 04/01/10 10:37, C. E. White wrote: > "jim"<"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt,net> wrote in message > news:A8GdndMKt4ay1y7WnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d(a)bright.net... > >> The question is why are there so many zealots on the internet that >> feel >> it is their mission in life to convince other motorists that it is >> good >> to be driving around with black oil in their engines? What sort of >> belief system drives a person to go around trying to convert others >> to >> black engine oil? > > While eveyone should make their own decisions on this, I can think of > a few "reasonable" reasons why it is useful to at least let people > know 3000 mile oil changes are not usually beneficial: > > 1) To counteract the constant din from compnies like Jiffy-Lube that > have brainwashed gnerations of people into thinking you must change > your oil every 3000 miles. > > 2) To make people aware that cars and oils are much better than was > the case when their Fathers used to change their oil. > > 3) Becasue some people are concerned about the environement and don't > like seeing all that perfectly good oil being drained from engines. > > 4) Just becasue we want people to know the facts so they can make an > informed decision. This sounds thoughtful --- LET'S KILL HIM!!! :)
From: Tony Harding on 2 Apr 2010 03:01 On 03/30/10 21:05, ACAR wrote: > On Mar 30, 10:17 am, jim beam<m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > snip >> >> when i posted this - i was thinking of the people that do what their >> granddaddy did, > > well, he "changed" oil by adding when it was a quart or two low. > >> even though combustion technology, fuels, oils and >> engine metallurgy are dramatically different these days. i was hoping >> to enlighten, but i guess i'd forgotten just how rigidly proud some >> people are of their ignorance and ability to keep their head stuck >> firmly in that sand. > > enlighten? > Jim, you never enlighten, you issue directives. > >> >> next time you get sick, doubtless you're going to resort to burning >> camphor and bread poultices. those "doctor" people and their >> new-fangled "technology" and "drugs" clearly don't know what they're doing. >> > > generally, drug researchers don't make unqualified long term claims > based on short term tests. Hoo, boy, where'd you get THAT? I have a bridge you'll love! :)
From: Tony Harding on 2 Apr 2010 03:06 On 03/31/10 09:43, jim beam wrote: > On 03/31/2010 05:33 AM, Mark wrote: > >> On Mar 30, 11:15�am, jim beam<m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>>> Does that really matter? >>> >>> of course not. �the percentage difference it makes is vanishingly small. >>> � and that's not including the fact that some engines have oil >>> deliberately pooled in locations that don't drain - to protect cam >>> shafts for instance. �new oil simply dilutes - unless the engine is >>> completely stripped and cleaned, it's never a complete "change". > > <fixed top posting> > > > If there are other pools of oil in the engine, why doesn't the oil > > turn dark right away? What is the percentage difference between 5% > > old oil left and 1%? Think it's 4%? > > > > > > like i said - dilution. Dilution with what? <serious question, not trying to be snarky>
From: Tony Harding on 2 Apr 2010 03:14 On 03/31/10 15:40, Obveeus wrote: > "Elle"<honda.lioness(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:beb4763f-74c7-4bf7-801c-7c0f79b766bd(a)e6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... > On Mar 30, 5:55 pm, "Bob Jones"<em...(a)me.not> wrote: >>> Most people drive in severe conditions. >> >> -- For my 2003 Civic in severe conditions, the interval then becomes >> 5k miles or six months. >> >> -- I would have to see a citation to believe that most people drive in >> severe conditions. I think Jim B is right that "normal" is a word that >> Honda chose for its manuals with careful consideration. > > I have seen 'severe conditions' described as 'lots of stop and go traffic'. > If that is the definition, then yes, most people drive under severe > conditions. Not to me, I take 'lots of stop and go traffic' to be like driving a cab in NYC. I have never driven a car like that and don't know anyone who has. I'm also curious which latitudes one has to live in to drive consistently > 90F or below freezing. I never pull a trailer nor do I ever go off road.
From: Observer on 2 Apr 2010 07:54
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 06:37:40 -0700, jim beam <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >On 04/01/2010 04:38 AM, Observer wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:41:36 -0700, jim beam<me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> >>> http://www.dtsc.ca.gov/TechnologyDevelopment/OPPTD_FLY_High-Efficiency-Oil-Filters.cfm >>> >>> shock, horror, they used oil analysis to arrive at these recommendations! >> >> >> I'm one of those guys who believes in 3000 mile intervals because it >> has always worked for me. > >i keep garlic in my refrigerator because it stops elephants from >standing in the butter. because it has always worked for me. > > As I said, if it works for you, do it. Does it matter what others think? |