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From: Dave Wilson on 3 Apr 2010 01:31 Dave Kelsen <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in news:4bb6b1ab$0$4895$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com: > On 4/2/2010 12:31 PM jim spake these words of knowledge: > >> >> Dave Kelsen wrote: >> >> >>> > >>> > You can't seriously believe I'm going to read this and not >>> > think "You >>> > are taking the comments as a personal attack on your belief >>> > system." >>> >>> I don't have a belief system with respect to my cars. I use the >>> actual knowledge of the people who build and understand them, and >>> the people who have bothered to examine their oil to obtain >>> real-world information on how often they should change it. >> >> You state you have zero personal first hand knowledge and no belief >> system. So what's left? you are omniscient? >> >> >>> You should try it. That said, I >>> don't particularly care what you do. Further, if you look back up >>> the chain of posts, you will notice that I did not participate. >>> "Vic" was not responded to, nor addressing, me. >> >> yeah but if you're omniscient you already knew he was attacking you - >> even before he wrote it. >> >>> >>> I can seriously believe that it doesn't matter what anyone says to >>> you; your opinion is apparently based on some sort of religion or, >>> as you put it, 'belief system'. Facts apparently don't enter into >>> the matter. Enjoy! >> >> And pray tell what facts have you presented? > > Lady, I can't really imagine how much fun it must be to live in your > world. It's a shame there's no one there with you > . Back in the 70's, when I smoked a lot of herb, I never hallucinated > - so I surmise that either pot has changed a lot, or you're doing > something considerably more serious. > > Either way, you should probably get some help, but I don't suppose > you'll understand that any better than anything else you've had read > to you. > > Be careful, man; have a safe journey, and try not to hurt anyone else! > > > RFT!!! > Dave Kelsen About this washing and "sealing" your cars every few weeks and the headlight lens rubbing you mentioned. Did this all start when you were a hophead all doped up on grass? Did you also drop acid? Never mind, doesn't matter here. You said you are "down to" washing and "sealing" your cars every few weeks now. I believe you said you did this with "3 Hondas." Was that ever a weekly or daily occurrence with one or more cars? Do you have a "secret" recipe for the "sealer" that requires a specific ritual to get the "sealer" mix just right, only known to you? Do you often feel that other people "just don't understand me?" Do people like this - people who just don't understand you - seem to be coming at you, one after another? Do you feel that Honda owners are not "given the respect they deserve?" Do you feel this very strongly when you are washing and "sealing" the Hondas? The reason I ask these questions is because I am a drug addiction counselor and I recognize some common symptoms of drug addiction aftermath in your posts. I'm assuming you are clean now, I'm sorry I can't help you here, but I suggest you get down to a local health center and discuss this with them. They are there to help. Don't think there is a stigma attached to that, and you can be sure that any information revealed in counseling will be kept private. What happens with a counselor stays with the counselor. That's what we counselors say. And we mean it. Started saying that after the Vegas commercials began, and it fits. If you are using your real name, please stop posting to the internet and usenet for now with that name. There are bad people who will use your own words against you, without giving any thought that you may not be of sound mind. Regards, David
From: pws on 3 Apr 2010 08:14 Dave Wilson wrote: >> RFT!!! >> Dave Kelsen > > About this washing and "sealing" your cars every few weeks and the > headlight lens rubbing you mentioned. > Did this all start when you were a hophead all doped up on grass? > Did you also drop acid? Never mind, doesn't matter here. > You said you are "down to" washing and "sealing" your cars every few > weeks now. I believe you said you did this with "3 Hondas." > Was that ever a weekly or daily occurrence with one or more cars? > Do you have a "secret" recipe for the "sealer" that requires a specific > ritual to get the "sealer" mix just right, only known to you? > Do you often feel that other people "just don't understand me?" > Do people like this - people who just don't understand you - seem to be > coming at you, one after another? > Do you feel that Honda owners are not "given the respect they deserve?" > Do you feel this very strongly when you are washing and "sealing" the > Hondas? > The reason I ask these questions is because I am a drug addiction > counselor and I recognize some common symptoms of drug addiction > aftermath in your posts. I'm assuming you are clean now, > I'm sorry I can't help you here, but I suggest you get down to a local > health center and discuss this with them. They are there to help. > Don't think there is a stigma attached to that, and you can be sure > that any information revealed in counseling will be kept private. > What happens with a counselor stays with the counselor. > That's what we counselors say. And we mean it. > Started saying that after the Vegas commercials began, and it fits. > If you are using your real name, please stop posting to the internet and > usenet for now with that name. > There are bad people who will use your own words against you, without > giving any thought that you may not be of sound mind. > > Regards, David This is one of the more amusing posts that I have read in some time.
From: Dave Kelsen on 3 Apr 2010 08:28 On 4/3/2010 12:31 AM Dave Wilson spake these words of knowledge: > Dave Kelsen <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in > news:4bb6b1ab$0$4895$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com: > >> On 4/2/2010 12:31 PM jim spake these words of knowledge: >> >>> >>> Dave Kelsen wrote: >>> >>> >>>> > >>>> > You can't seriously believe I'm going to read this and not >>>> > think "You >>>> > are taking the comments as a personal attack on your belief >>>> > system." >>>> >>>> I don't have a belief system with respect to my cars. I use the >>>> actual knowledge of the people who build and understand them, and >>>> the people who have bothered to examine their oil to obtain >>>> real-world information on how often they should change it. >>> >>> You state you have zero personal first hand knowledge and no belief >>> system. So what's left? you are omniscient? >>> >>> >>>> You should try it. That said, I >>>> don't particularly care what you do. Further, if you look back up >>>> the chain of posts, you will notice that I did not participate. >>>> "Vic" was not responded to, nor addressing, me. >>> >>> yeah but if you're omniscient you already knew he was attacking you - >>> even before he wrote it. >>> >>>> >>>> I can seriously believe that it doesn't matter what anyone says to >>>> you; your opinion is apparently based on some sort of religion or, >>>> as you put it, 'belief system'. Facts apparently don't enter into >>>> the matter. Enjoy! >>> >>> And pray tell what facts have you presented? >> >> Lady, I can't really imagine how much fun it must be to live in your >> world. It's a shame there's no one there with you >> . Back in the 70's, when I smoked a lot of herb, I never hallucinated >> - so I surmise that either pot has changed a lot, or you're doing >> something considerably more serious. >> >> Either way, you should probably get some help, but I don't suppose >> you'll understand that any better than anything else you've had read >> to you. >> >> Be careful, man; have a safe journey, and try not to hurt anyone else! >> >> >> RFT!!! >> Dave Kelsen > > About this washing and "sealing" your cars every few weeks and the > headlight lens rubbing you mentioned. > Did this all start when you were a hophead all doped up on grass? > Did you also drop acid? Never mind, doesn't matter here. > You said you are "down to" washing and "sealing" your cars every few > weeks now. I believe you said you did this with "3 Hondas." > Was that ever a weekly or daily occurrence with one or more cars? > Do you have a "secret" recipe for the "sealer" that requires a specific > ritual to get the "sealer" mix just right, only known to you? > Do you often feel that other people "just don't understand me?" > Do people like this - people who just don't understand you - seem to be > coming at you, one after another? > Do you feel that Honda owners are not "given the respect they deserve?" > Do you feel this very strongly when you are washing and "sealing" the > Hondas? > The reason I ask these questions is because I am a drug addiction > counselor and I recognize some common symptoms of drug addiction > aftermath in your posts. I'm assuming you are clean now, > I'm sorry I can't help you here, but I suggest you get down to a local > health center and discuss this with them. They are there to help. > Don't think there is a stigma attached to that, and you can be sure > that any information revealed in counseling will be kept private. > What happens with a counselor stays with the counselor. > That's what we counselors say. And we mean it. > Started saying that after the Vegas commercials began, and it fits. > If you are using your real name, please stop posting to the internet and > usenet for now with that name. > There are bad people who will use your own words against you, without > giving any thought that you may not be of sound mind. > > Regards, David Now you're getting in the spirit of the woman I responded to! If we could all see things her way, as you do, none of us would allow actual facts get in the way of our... thoughts. You've done a good job here! RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- Nothing is impossible for anyone impervious to reason.
From: hls on 3 Apr 2010 08:58 "Dave Kelsen" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:4bb61795$0$4977$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On 4/2/2010 7:43 AM hls spake these words of knowledge: > >> "Dave Kelsen" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:4bb5dd55$0$4962$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> >>> >>> True enough - but while the actions on your part are indeed a >>> preference, the folks who talk about the improvements to engines and >>> oils have something more than a belief. They have scientifically >>> conducted experiments. They have proof that they are right. >> >> We have talked about this before. There may be proof, and scientifically >> conducted experiments, but evidence of these is lacking, especially on >> this group. We hear testimonials, and opinions posed to be fact. >> >> Where is the actual data? > > Apparently no where from which you would accept it. > > Personally, I use the intarwebs to find out things other people know about > that I don't know about. > > No, that doesn't mean I accept whatever someone puts on a page. > > I understand nothing anyone says will sway you; if you send your own oil > off for analysis, you won't accept the results either. I don't know what > to tell you. The data is out6 there (I would start at bobistheoilguy), > but no one can (or even wants to) make you understand or accept it. > > > RFT!!! > Dave Kelsen Oil analysis would have to be validated as a dependable technique which actually relates to the important values by which a motor oil should be rated. Test engine data would seem to be inherently relevant. Chemical analysis of the oil might be. I know of Bobistheoilguy.
From: dr_jeff on 3 Apr 2010 10:20
Grumpy AuContraire wrote: > dr_jeff wrote: >> Grumpy AuContraire wrote: >>> Elle wrote: >>>> On Apr 1, 5:51 pm, "Bob Jones" <em...(a)me.not> wrote: >>>>> "Elle" <honda.lion...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> >>> >>> snip >>> >>>>> >>>>>> From my >>>>>> 2003 Civic's manual: >>>>>> The "normal" schedule is fine for most drivers, even if they >>>>>> occasionally drive in severe conditions. >>>>> That's a big difference from just saying "is fine for most drivers." >>>> >>>> Pardon? The manual is pointing out that one must drive "most of the >>>> time" in the severe conditions listed to warrant following the severe >>>> schedule. Only occasionally driving in severe conditions warrants the >>>> normal schedule. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Heh... Probably a product of the public school system! >>> >>> JT >> >> I am a product of the public school system, and quite proud of it. So >> are my students. >> >> Jeff > > > > Keepin' the chain going, eh? > > JT > The chain of excellence, of course. |