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From: SMS on 30 Mar 2010 21:36 On 30/03/10 6:06 AM, FatterDumber& Happier Moe wrote: > jim beam wrote: >> http://www.dtsc.ca.gov/TechnologyDevelopment/OPPTD_FLY_High-Efficiency-Oil-Filters.cfm >> >> >> shock, horror, they used oil analysis to arrive at these recommendations! >> > If you drive your car like a fleet vehicle than this might apply. If you > are the typical driver you better stick to the manufacturer's > recommendation. Pretty sure he was directing the original post at the people that go far beyond the manufacturer's recommendations. Believe it or not, there are still some people out there doing two to three times the number of oil changes that the manufacturer recommends (i.e. 3000 mile oil changes) because they don't understand that excessive oil changes provide no additional benefit (and may actually be bad for the vehicle). I've never met one of these people in real life, but I've read their postings so they probably exist (maybe they are only in states that lack good public schools). If 3000 mile oil changes are "cheap insurance" why aren't they changing the oil every 1500 miles or every 750 miles, and buying as much of that cheap insurance as they can get?
From: jim beam on 31 Mar 2010 00:56 On 03/30/2010 06:05 PM, ACAR wrote: > On Mar 30, 10:17�am, jim beam<m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > snip >> >> when i posted this - i was thinking of the people that do what their >> granddaddy did, > > well, he "changed" oil by adding when it was a quart or two low. > >> even though combustion technology, fuels, �oils and >> engine metallurgy are dramatically different these days. �i was hoping >> to enlighten, but i guess i'd forgotten just how rigidly proud some >> people are of their ignorance and ability to keep their head stuck >> firmly in that sand. > > enlighten? > Jim, you never enlighten, you issue directives. > >> >> next time you get sick, doubtless you're going to resort to burning >> camphor and bread poultices. �those "doctor" people and their >> new-fangled "technology" and "drugs" clearly don't know what they're doing. >> > > generally, drug researchers don't make unqualified long term claims > based on short term tests. > > let me put it another way; you'd have to be an idiot to believe you > can project the results from a year test on fleet vehicles to 10 years > or more of normal passenger car use. not to mention folks in cold > country are rightfully skeptical of tests conducted in CA. superstition beats science every time - there's /always/ some superstitious excuse. > > are you familiar with engineering personality disorder? > > just kidding.... -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: jim beam on 31 Mar 2010 00:56 On 03/30/2010 04:55 PM, Bob Jones wrote: > "Elle"<honda.lioness(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:3ebb0d52-9d5c-4fda-9d4c-e7d329ca1792(a)i25g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On Mar 29, 6:41 pm, jim beam<m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> http://www.dtsc.ca.gov/TechnologyDevelopment/OPPTD_FLY_High-Efficienc... > >> The article linked above is a good read and helps reinforce my belief >> about going with the manufacturer's recommendations on oil change >> intervals, or even longer. > >> The owner's manual for my 2003 Civic says to change the oil every 10k >> miles or every year, whichever comes first, using 5W20 non-synthetic, >> and assuming no extreme conditions, per what is explained to be >> "extreme" in the owner's manual. > >> The wikipedia entry for "motor oil" talks about how oil standards have >> changed, driving the increasing interval over the decades. > > That may be the case for normal driving condition. Most people drive in > severe conditions. nonsense - by definition, "normal" is what most people drive in. -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: Mark on 31 Mar 2010 08:29 That's why you leave the hood up... On Mar 30, 3:48 pm, "M.M." <nob...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > Then there's the risk that your wife will drive it to work in the > morning, not knowing there's no oil in the engine...
From: Mark on 31 Mar 2010 08:31
When you get an extra 1/4 to 1/2 a quart out, I have to think so. On Mar 30, 10:40 am, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote: > > Does that really matter? > |