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From: jim beam on 31 Mar 2010 09:47 On 03/31/2010 05:31 AM, Mark wrote: > On Mar 30, 10:40�am, dr_jeff<u...(a)msu.edu> wrote: >> >> Does that really matter? >> <fixed top posting> > When you get an extra 1/4 to 1/2 a quart out, I have to think so. > > "think" not "know". -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: Obveeus on 31 Mar 2010 09:48 "jim" <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt,net> wrote: > I know people who clean their house every day - sometimes twice a day. > Given that there are people who keep their houses spotless why isn't > their a similar cohort of self-appointed internet mavens that are out > their trying to convince others that it is bad to clean house too > often? There are. Vaccuuming causes tons of problems (asthma in children, for example). Exposure to all the chemicals also causes many health problems. People that constantly use those germ killing wipes are making themselves sicker every day. > Some people don't like to have black oil in their engines just like > some people can't stand to see a speck of dirt in their house. Why is it > that the one attracts so much criticism while the other goes without > comment? Are we now trying to demonize anyone that points out 'hey, that is a big waste of money'? > The question is why are there so many zealots on the internet that feel > it is their mission in life to convince other motorists that it is good > to be driving around with black oil in their engines? What sort of > belief system drives a person to go around trying to convert others to > black engine oil? People that want to reduce their country's dependence on foreign oil? People that want the environment to be less poluted? People that are just trying to give helpful financial advice? Next up: irrational fear that someone will let out word that car wax isn't really beneficial.
From: Elle on 31 Mar 2010 10:10 On Mar 30, 5:55 pm, "Bob Jones" <em...(a)me.not> wrote: > Most people drive in severe conditions. -- For my 2003 Civic in severe conditions, the interval then becomes 5k miles or six months. -- I would have to see a citation to believe that most people drive in severe conditions. I think Jim B is right that "normal" is a word that Honda chose for its manuals with careful consideration. -- What folks report about their maintenance minders (the ones that use startups, temperatures, etc. as input for when to tell the driver an oil change is needed) seems to support longer intervals. -- One has to drive /mainly/ in one or more of the severe conditions to justify the shorter interval. E.g. driving less than five miles per trip or in freezing temperatures, less than 10 miles per trip.
From: E. Meyer on 31 Mar 2010 10:37 On 3/31/10 8:48 AM, in article hovjra$9p0$1(a)news.eternal-september.org, "Obveeus" <Obveeus(a)aol.com> wrote: > > "jim" <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt,net> wrote: >> I know people who clean their house every day - sometimes twice a day. >> Given that there are people who keep their houses spotless why isn't >> their a similar cohort of self-appointed internet mavens that are out >> their trying to convince others that it is bad to clean house too >> often? > > There are. Vaccuuming causes tons of problems (asthma in children, for > example). Exposure to all the chemicals also causes many health problems. > People that constantly use those germ killing wipes are making themselves > sicker every day. > >> Some people don't like to have black oil in their engines just like >> some people can't stand to see a speck of dirt in their house. Why is it >> that the one attracts so much criticism while the other goes without >> comment? > > Are we now trying to demonize anyone that points out 'hey, that is a big > waste of money'? > >> The question is why are there so many zealots on the internet that feel >> it is their mission in life to convince other motorists that it is good >> to be driving around with black oil in their engines? What sort of >> belief system drives a person to go around trying to convert others to >> black engine oil? > > People that want to reduce their country's dependence on foreign oil? > People that want the environment to be less poluted? > People that are just trying to give helpful financial advice? > > Next up: irrational fear that someone will let out word that car wax isn't > really beneficial. > > Looks like we found one of the zealots.
From: jim on 31 Mar 2010 10:41
Obveeus wrote: > > "jim" <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt,net> wrote: > > I know people who clean their house every day - sometimes twice a day. > > Given that there are people who keep their houses spotless why isn't > > their a similar cohort of self-appointed internet mavens that are out > > their trying to convince others that it is bad to clean house too > > often? > > There are. Vaccuuming causes tons of problems (asthma in children, for > example). Exposure to all the chemicals also causes many health problems. > People that constantly use those germ killing wipes are making themselves > sicker every day. > > > Some people don't like to have black oil in their engines just like > > some people can't stand to see a speck of dirt in their house. Why is it > > that the one attracts so much criticism while the other goes without > > comment? > > Are we now trying to demonize anyone that points out 'hey, that is a big > waste of money'? Go ahead. Point out any foolish thing you want to. It is not as if about 90% of other consumer spending isn't a target for the big waste of money line. The question is why this particular obsession? > > > The question is why are there so many zealots on the internet that feel > > it is their mission in life to convince other motorists that it is good > > to be driving around with black oil in their engines? What sort of > > belief system drives a person to go around trying to convert others to > > black engine oil? > > People that want to reduce their country's dependence on foreign oil? If you want to do that then advocate for getting rid of the automobile as private transportation. > People that want the environment to be less poluted? Doubtful argument. My hunch is people with this obsession pollute the environment significantly more than those who aren't so obsessed. > People that are just trying to give helpful financial advice? That doesn't explain the obsession. > > Next up: irrational fear that someone will let out word that car wax isn't > really beneficial. Well the same could be said for any other cosmetic product, but so what? |