From: Eeyore on


Jeffrey Turner wrote:

> Losing your job to someone who'll work for half the wages *so* often
> leads to prosperity.

Why stop at half the wages. China and India can do it for far far less.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


Jeffrey Turner wrote:

> No. Debt has long been known to be an economic stimulus.

Since when have high levels of personal debt been an economic stimulus ? Boom and
bust sounds more like it.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


Jeffrey Turner wrote:

> Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:
>
> > 2) There are plenty of countries not doing as well as the US
> > economically that have far more powerful trade unions, see France.
>
> They live longer and have more leisure time.

And great food, socialist health care that doesn't bankrupt you, trains that can
do > 300 mph, a lot of well-paid high-tech industry including the Airbus company
and Europe's biggest manufacturer of nuclear power stations..... Plus geat
scenery and weather.


> It's not so bad,

I doubt any Frenchman (or woman) would trade their life there for one in the USA.



> but with Sarkozy in there things will likely get worse.

What have you in mind ?

Graham

From: Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) on


Eeyore wrote:
>
> Jeffrey Turner wrote:
>
> > Losing your job to someone who'll work for half the wages *so* often
> > leads to prosperity.
>
> Why stop at half the wages. China and India can do it for far far less.
>
Don't the people of those countries need to live too?


--
"There are some gals who don't like to be pushed and grabbed and lassoed
and drug into buses in the middle of the night."
"How else was I gonna get her on the bus? Well, I'm askin' ya.",
George Axelrod, "Bus Stop"
From: Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) on


Eeyore wrote:
>
> Jeffrey Turner wrote:
>
> > Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:
> >
> > > 2) There are plenty of countries not doing as well as the US
> > > economically that have far more powerful trade unions, see France.
> >
> > They live longer and have more leisure time.
>
> And great food, socialist health care that doesn't bankrupt you, trains that can
> do > 300 mph, a lot of well-paid high-tech industry including the Airbus company
>
Airbus is a subsidized company that include a number EU countries. It is
also on extremely hard times.



> and Europe's biggest manufacturer of nuclear power stations..... Plus geat
> scenery and weather.
>
Nuclear is an excellent way to gain advantage for your country in the
energy game. It could be pointed out that because France gets 80% of its
power from nuclear energy, it is at a material advantage that makes up
for its other negatives to a certain extent. That it is still in turmoil
suggests something.




> > It's not so bad,
>
> I doubt any Frenchman (or woman) would trade their life there for one in the USA.
>
So French people don't move to the US?




--
"There are some gals who don't like to be pushed and grabbed and lassoed
and drug into buses in the middle of the night."
"How else was I gonna get her on the bus? Well, I'm askin' ya.",
George Axelrod, "Bus Stop"