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From: Eeyore on 20 May 2007 05:05 "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > "Fred G. Mackey" wrote: > > > > > Too many horror stories about National Health. > > > > Such as ? I doubt you'll find anything happening here that doesn't happen in the > USA too. > > Remember when they hooked up the nitrous in place of the oxygen and > killed a patient? This was even though the two are intentionally setup > with incompatible hoses and couplers. Has an anaesthetist never accidentally killed a patient in the USA ? > Remember when they were keeping body parts without permission? One doctor had organised this in one hospital for a small number of their patients. I don't see how that would affect patient care. > > We hear horror tories about US healthcare too - like how much it costs and how >it means some > ppl can't afford the most appropriate treatment ! > > This is the fear in countries with nationalized health care, that they > won't be able to afford it if they have to pay for it, a la the US. The US system easily doubles or trebles the cost of equivalent care. > > Plus we don't have laws forcing us not to buy cheap generic medicines. > > > What are you talking about? I gather you can't import medicines into the USA from Canada for example despite them being identical because the lower price would allegedly hurt US drug companies even though they sold them in Canada at that lower price in the first place ! In short, the US health care market is being manipulated against the comsumers' interest. Graham
From: Eeyore on 20 May 2007 05:06 Joe the Aroma wrote: > A government loan is a subsidy. A loan is a loan. > You think that the government would seize their assets and shut Airbus down if > they defaulted? Governments don't do that in the USA either. Graham
From: Eeyore on 20 May 2007 05:13 Rudy Canoza wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > "Fred G. Mackey" wrote: > >> > >> Too many horror stories about National Health. > > > > Such as ? I doubt you'll find anything happening here that doesn't happen in the > USA > too. > > Queues. I think you mean waiting lists. They have been cut down radically in recent times. On one recent occasion I was referred for treatment I was actually stunned how quick it was. A couple of days. I saw my GP on a Weds or Thurs and had an appointment for treatment on the following Mon or Tues. > People with health cover - admittedly, not everyone - in the U.S. do not wait long for even > very sophisticated treatment. Long queues are an intrinsic > problem of UK and Canadian universal health care. Not queues. Graham
From: Eeyore on 20 May 2007 05:15 Rudy Canoza wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote: > > > >> The two most important reasons for the huge cost differences in the US > >> vs countries like China and India is a place to live and medical care. > > > > Actually it's about basic produce like food and clothing too. > > > > As far as medical care goes, in the UK, the 'socialist' National Health Service that > > gives care > > not much of it As much as required. There are no limits. > > to everyone costs about �1200 ($2400) p.a. per head of population which is > > a heck of a lot less than US health care costs, yet the US is forever resistant to > > adopt such a scheme that has much lower costs and overheads. > > For your �1200 per year, you don't get much care. You > queue up interminably, for relatively simple items. Silly American myths. Why are you so proud of paying so much unnecessarily ? Health overall is actually very much better in the UK than the US. Graham
From: * US on 20 May 2007 07:27
On Sun, 20 May 2007 05:10:00 GMT, Rudy Canoza <rudy-canoza(a)excite.com> wrote: >in the U.S... People have to pay more for inferior healthcare. |