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From: Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) on 20 May 2007 14:41 *, US, * wrote: > > On Sun, 20 May 2007 05:10:00 GMT, Rudy Canoza <rudy-canoza(a)excite.com> wrote: > > >in the U.S... > > People have to pay more for inferior healthcare. > Again you make the assumption that those without insurance are paying for the general level of health care. They aren't paying for it, they don't have health insurance. Go look at the level of health care people in America have who have decent insurance. -- "There are some gals who don't like to be pushed and grabbed and lassoed and drug into buses in the middle of the night." "How else was I gonna get her on the bus? Well, I'm askin' ya.", George Axelrod, "Bus Stop"
From: Fred G. Mackey on 20 May 2007 14:57 Eeyore wrote: > > "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote: > > >>Eeyore wrote: >> >> >>>As far as medical care goes, in the UK, the 'socialist' National Health Service that >>>gives care to everyone costs about �1200 ($2400) p.a. per head of population > which >> >>is a heck of a lot less than US health care costs, yet the US is forever > resistant to >>adopt such a scheme that has much lower costs and overheads. >> >>You keep ignoring that the people paying for higher levels of access in >>America are spending the extra money *by choice*. It's also not like the >>NHS is something to write home about. > > > You can pay more for 'private' care in the UK too if you want to. Either by electing to > have an additional insurance policy or by paying on an ad-hoc basis. It's simply not > compulsory and most ppl go with the normal provision most of the time. > But the ones who can afford it, do get private insurance. That's telling, isn't it? > Graham >
From: Fred G. Mackey on 20 May 2007 15:13 Jeffrey Turner wrote: > Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote: >> >> We separate the owners of the company from the workers. They can be the >> same people but they are separated for purposes of deciding who gets to >> control what the company does. > > > But they don't always have the same interests, why shouldn't they > implement democracy? > Because they don't always have the same interests. > --Jeff >
From: Jeffrey Turner on 20 May 2007 17:58 Fred G. Mackey wrote: > Jeffrey Turner wrote: > >> Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote: > > >>> >>> We separate the owners of the company from the workers. They can be the >>> same people but they are separated for purposes of deciding who gets to >>> control what the company does. >> >> But they don't always have the same interests, why shouldn't they >> implement democracy? > > Because they don't always have the same interests. That's why we'll have to send the military to bring them democracy. --Jeff -- We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob. --Franklin D. Roosevelt
From: Jeffrey Turner on 20 May 2007 18:07
Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > >>In short, the US health care market is >>being manipulated against the comsumers' interest. > > Is limiting the amount of money companies can make with new drugs, and > therefore can invest in research for even more new drugs, really in the > consumers' interest? I think that all first world countries should > equally share this burden. So I do think that Americans are being > treated unfairly. Because who knows where we'd be without another new drug for "erectile dysfunction." Of course, the drug companies spend a lot of their income on advertising, not to mention executive salaries and profits. So the idea that without being able to charge what the traffic will bear they'd never have enough money to develop another new drug is just silly. --Jeff -- We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob. --Franklin D. Roosevelt |