From: Nate Nagel on
just curious, are these

http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FGBP

strong enough to stuff full of liquids? say, if I were out and about
and felt like picking up a half case of beer or similar?

I know, just go to the store and look at 'em, but the only place I know
of that actually sells 'em around here is the L.L. Bean store in the
mall, which I try to avoid like the plague (actually, I don't mind LLB
even if they're pricey but I abhor malls and crowds etc.)

nate

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From: Nate Nagel on
Nate Nagel wrote:
> just curious, are these
>
> http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FGBP
>
> strong enough to stuff full of liquids? say, if I were out and about
> and felt like picking up a half case of beer or similar?
>
> I know, just go to the store and look at 'em, but the only place I know
> of that actually sells 'em around here is the L.L. Bean store in the
> mall, which I try to avoid like the plague (actually, I don't mind LLB
> even if they're pricey but I abhor malls and crowds etc.)
>
> nate
>

sorry, wrong group. Brain fart.

nate

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From: Brent on
On 2010-01-16, Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> We've been shopping for panniers also. The wife wants to ride her bike
> to the Farmer's Market every week, so she wanted to outfit her bike
> with carrying apparatus. One of the first things we found out was that
> her bike is not the correct type for regular panniers. The only kind
> that will fit her bike is a weaker kind that clamps to the seat post;
> you can pretty much forget hauling home a gallon of milk or bleach
> with that type. Since her bike is kind of old anyway, I'll probably
> end up getting her a new one which can be properly equipped.

You can always buy a welder and weld on the bosses to mount things ;)

> But I digress. Please post a follow-up when you find something that
> works. Thanks so much! :)

My primary bicycle wasn't designed for hauling stuff (neither is my
secondary one, but it's better suited for it but too old and I believe
lacking the bosses anyway) so I tend to use backpacks.

The largest item I've ever biked home with was an electric cooling fan
assembly for my mustang. I turned the box into a back pack with some
scrap CAT5 I had laying around and duct tape.

Sadly I have no solution for liquids. If I don't feel like driving and
am buying juice I've just walked.


From: Nate Nagel on
Scott in SoCal wrote:
> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Nate Nagel <njnagel(a)roosters.net>
> said:
>
>> just curious, are these
>>
>> http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FGBP
>>
>> strong enough to stuff full of liquids? say, if I were out and about
>> and felt like picking up a half case of beer or similar?
>
> If you find out, please let me know.
>
> We've been shopping for panniers also. The wife wants to ride her bike
> to the Farmer's Market every week, so she wanted to outfit her bike
> with carrying apparatus. One of the first things we found out was that
> her bike is not the correct type for regular panniers. The only kind
> that will fit her bike is a weaker kind that clamps to the seat post;
> you can pretty much forget hauling home a gallon of milk or bleach
> with that type. Since her bike is kind of old anyway, I'll probably
> end up getting her a new one which can be properly equipped.
>
> But I digress. Please post a follow-up when you find something that
> works. Thanks so much! :)

At the risk of really digressing, so long as it has the brazeons at the
dropouts, I wouldn't really worry about putting a rack on it with a
seatpost clamp. Most of the weight is carried at the dropouts, the
upper mount is just for balance. The real trouble will be if the bike
is a racey type with short chainstays, then heel strike is a real issue
with panniers, but some of them offer adjustable mounts to help slide
them back if required.

Jandd and Ortleib are supposedly the good stuff as far as panniers go, I
just tend to be anal retentive about my equipment, and also tend to go
overboard when shopping.

I have had a big old stack of books strapped to the rack on my bike with
nothing more than an old shopping bag and one of those spiderweb nets
and it was fine, of course it was only for a couple miles. It's nice
living close enough to the library that I don't need to drive.

nate

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From: Nate Nagel on
Nate Nagel wrote:
> Scott in SoCal wrote:
>> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Nate Nagel <njnagel(a)roosters.net>
>> said:
>>
>>> just curious, are these
>>>
>>> http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FGBP
>>>
>>> strong enough to stuff full of liquids? say, if I were out and about
>>> and felt like picking up a half case of beer or similar?
>>
>> If you find out, please let me know.
>>
>> We've been shopping for panniers also. The wife wants to ride her bike
>> to the Farmer's Market every week, so she wanted to outfit her bike
>> with carrying apparatus. One of the first things we found out was that
>> her bike is not the correct type for regular panniers. The only kind
>> that will fit her bike is a weaker kind that clamps to the seat post;
>> you can pretty much forget hauling home a gallon of milk or bleach
>> with that type. Since her bike is kind of old anyway, I'll probably
>> end up getting her a new one which can be properly equipped.
>>
>> But I digress. Please post a follow-up when you find something that
>> works. Thanks so much! :)
>
> At the risk of really digressing, so long as it has the brazeons at the
> dropouts, I wouldn't really worry about putting a rack on it with a
> seatpost clamp. Most of the weight is carried at the dropouts, the
> upper mount is just for balance. The real trouble will be if the bike
> is a racey type with short chainstays, then heel strike is a real issue
> with panniers, but some of them offer adjustable mounts to help slide
> them back if required.
>
> Jandd and Ortleib are supposedly the good stuff as far as panniers go, I
> just tend to be anal retentive about my equipment, and also tend to go
> overboard when shopping.
>
> I have had a big old stack of books strapped to the rack on my bike with
> nothing more than an old shopping bag and one of those spiderweb nets
> and it was fine, of course it was only for a couple miles. It's nice
> living close enough to the library that I don't need to drive.
>
> nate
>

BTW, got this link from the group that I originally meant to post to...

http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/?o=1gci&doc_id=1841&v=v

Appallingly fredly, but looks quite practical, and if anything is likely
more waterproof than a pannier made from nylon cloth. Only downside is
they don't fold up when empty.

nate

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