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From: john wright on 13 Apr 2010 10:23 On 13/04/2010 14:44, Roland Perry wrote: > In message <82j7teFf92U1(a)mid.individual.net>, at 13:55:09 on Tue, 13 Apr > 2010, john wright <john(a)pegasus.f2s.com> remarked: >> To a motorist the risk that appears is the presence of the cycle. Not >> whether a helemt is being worn. > > The risk is what the repercussions might be after an accidental collision. I think you will gather that what I was considering was preventing that accidental collision in the first place. This is probably the main consideration of any motorist who gives cycles a wide berth. What goes through the mind of people who don't give cylcists a lot of room I couldn't say. If we use the "Five Whys" technique to find the root cause this will be it. -- John Wright Use your imagination Marvin! Life's bad enough as it is - why invent any more of it.
From: Roland Perry on 13 Apr 2010 11:26 In message <82jd28FhdmU1(a)mid.individual.net>, at 15:23:03 on Tue, 13 Apr 2010, john wright <john(a)pegasus.f2s.com> remarked: >What goes through the mind of people who don't give cylcists a lot of >room I couldn't say. So don't. -- Roland Perry
From: john wright on 13 Apr 2010 12:14 On 13/04/2010 16:26, Roland Perry wrote: > In message <82jd28FhdmU1(a)mid.individual.net>, at 15:23:03 on Tue, 13 Apr > 2010, john wright remarked: >> What goes through the mind of people who don't give cylcists a lot of >> room I couldn't say. > > So don't. No intention of so doing old bean. -- John Wright Use your imagination Marvin! Life's bad enough as it is - why invent any more of it.
From: Nick Finnigan on 13 Apr 2010 12:28 Roland Perry wrote: > In message <3q87s5laid5djm3ci5dtttuv7du22rqt02(a)4ax.com>, at 23:51:04 on > Mon, 12 Apr 2010, JMS <jmsmith2010(a)live.co.uk> remarked: >>>>> And you can ride with a helmet and risk motorists paying you less >>>>> attention because you are "protected". >>>> >>>> Why would I, as a motorist think such a thing? >>> >>> It's called Risk Compensation. Read John Adams' book. >> >> And there is some proof that Risk Compensation is applicable to >> cyclists wearing helmets somewhere is there? > > It applies to all situations where a risk is assessed. Road users don't assess risks.
From: john wright on 13 Apr 2010 13:03
On 13/04/2010 17:28, Nick Finnigan wrote: > Roland Perry wrote: >> In message <3q87s5laid5djm3ci5dtttuv7du22rqt02(a)4ax.com>, at 23:51:04 >> on Mon, 12 Apr 2010, JMS <jmsmith2010(a)live.co.uk> remarked: >>>>>> And you can ride with a helmet and risk motorists paying you less >>>>>> attention because you are "protected". >>>>> >>>>> Why would I, as a motorist think such a thing? >>>> >>>> It's called Risk Compensation. Read John Adams' book. >>> >>> And there is some proof that Risk Compensation is applicable to >>> cyclists wearing helmets somewhere is there? >> >> It applies to all situations where a risk is assessed. > > Road users don't assess risks. Few people do in a formal sense. Part of the problem is that people's general perception of risk is highly skewed compared to the real risk involved in something. Ask people what they think the risk of, say, travelling in an aeroplane would be, and they might well estimate it as very much higher than the real risk. Ask people what they think the risk of, say, travelling in a car would be, and they might well estimate it as very much lower than the real risk. -- John Wright Use your imagination Marvin! Life's bad enough as it is - why invent any more of it. |