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From: Roland Perry on 27 Apr 2010 15:24 In message <hr7d2g$bsb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, at 20:14:23 on Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Nick Finnigan <nix(a)genie.co.uk> remarked: > Nobody drives faster (other than when cornering) if they get a car >with better brakes and better handling. Hardly anyone would corner >faster. This is an observation from your own experience as a driver? It's directly at variance with my own observations. -- Roland Perry
From: Peter Clinch on 27 Apr 2010 15:36 Nick Finnigan wrote: > Nobody drives faster (other than when cornering) if they get a car with > better brakes and better handling. Hardly anyone would corner faster. I do... > You think that people drive hire cars cautiously ? I do... -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net p.j.clinch(a)dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
From: Tony Raven on 27 Apr 2010 16:22 Nick Finnigan wrote: > > Nobody drives faster (other than when cornering) if they get a car with > better brakes and better handling. Hardly anyone would corner faster. > The few that do corner faster will be safer than those that don't. > You're not aware of the Munich taxi driver study then. "Subsequent analysis of the rating scales showed that drivers of cabs with ABS made sharper turns in curves, were less accurate in their lane-holding behaviour, proceeded at a shorter forward sight distance, made more poorly adjusted merging manoeuvres and created more "traffic conflicts". This is a technical term for a situation in which one or more traffic participants have to take swift action to avoid a collision with another road user.[3] Finally, as compared with the non-ABS cabs, the ABS cabs were driven faster at one of the four measuring points along the route. All these differences were significant." http://psyc.queensu.ca/target/chapter07.html -- Tony " I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong." Bertrand Russell
From: Nick Finnigan on 27 Apr 2010 18:21 Tony Raven wrote: > Nick Finnigan wrote: >> >> Nobody drives faster (other than when cornering) if they get a car >> with better brakes and better handling. Hardly anyone would corner >> faster. >> The few that do corner faster will be safer than those that don't. >> > > You're not aware of the Munich taxi driver study then. I am very much aware of that study which showed that people who pay for damage that occurs to the vehicles they drive are more cautious. > "Subsequent analysis of the rating scales showed that drivers of cabs > with ABS made sharper turns in curves, were less accurate in their > lane-holding behaviour, proceeded at a shorter forward sight distance, > made more poorly adjusted merging manoeuvres and created more "traffic > conflicts". This is a technical term for a situation in which one or > more traffic participants have to take swift action to avoid a collision > with another road user.[3] Finally, as compared with the non-ABS cabs, > the ABS cabs were driven faster at one of the four measuring points > along the route. All these differences were significant." Nothing about better handling nor brakes, only faster at one point, which may have been a corner. Not representative of car drivers.
From: Nick Finnigan on 27 Apr 2010 18:26
Roland Perry wrote: > In message <hr7d2g$bsb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, at 20:14:23 on > Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Nick Finnigan <nix(a)genie.co.uk> remarked: > >> Nobody drives faster (other than when cornering) if they get a car >> with better brakes and better handling. Hardly anyone would corner >> faster. > > This is an observation from your own experience as a driver? Yes, hardly anyone drives close to limits of performance. > It's directly at variance with my own observations. How many cars do you see being driven anything like a motorbike? |