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From: The Raven on 26 Apr 2010 08:06 "Milton" <millame23(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4bd4e6c8$0$27807$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > > <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message > news:lgn9t5tgk0ladp8ev8p8slbj8ge0ccf2qm(a)4ax.com... > > >> Ahhh yeah.....Isolated driving conditions. >> Fact still remains that overall the V8 will use more. Think it through... The average car uses about 16HP to hold 100kph so, assuming similar BSFC and VE they'll both be about the same. In practice, the V8 will be fractionally worse because of: weight, frictional losses etc) >> >> Forget trips, towing etc etc...look at the whole driving experience. >> > Didn't you read Dan's post about his getting 9l/100km from a Clubsport > 6.2l Wagon? I can't do better than 11l/100km from my V6, 3.8l Acclaim > wagon and I don't drive like a rat up a drainpipe either. There is something wrong with your car then, I can regularly better that with a supercharged 3.8L V6. If a SV6 Sportwagon gets over 11L/100K in heavy driving then, something is wrong with the driver. 10.5L/100K is more like it. > I've had V8's myself and I'll be stuffed if I know how he does it.
From: OzOne on 26 Apr 2010 18:09 On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:26:38 +0800, "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote: >OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote: >> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:05:02 +1000, "Milton" <millame23(a)yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message >>> news:lgn9t5tgk0ladp8ev8p8slbj8ge0ccf2qm(a)4ax.com... >>> >>> >>>> Ahhh yeah.....Isolated driving conditions. >>>> Fact still remains that overall the V8 will use more. >>>> >>>> Forget trips, towing etc etc...look at the whole driving experience. >>>> >>> Didn't you read Dan's post about his getting 9l/100km from a >>> Clubsport 6.2l Wagon? I can't do better than 11l/100km from my V6, >>> 3.8l Acclaim wagon and I don't drive like a rat up a drainpipe >>> either. I've had V8's myself and I'll be stuffed if I know how he >>> does it. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Milton >> >> Dan does not get 9/100l from his Holden. >> He may have on a trip with absolutely no load and a strong >> tailwind...however for normal driving he will get far worse. >> > >His economy is fairly typical, not an exception. > >I know you won't believe that but that is your problem. > Yes, typical for highway driving.....but over a range of normal driving conditions it'll be far less and more than a similar V6 over the same normal driving conditions. I know you won't agree however testing by experts using defined criteria has shown this to be so. OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
From: Clocky on 26 Apr 2010 21:04 OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:26:38 +0800, "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> > wrote: > >> OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote: >>> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:05:02 +1000, "Milton" <millame23(a)yahoo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message >>>> news:lgn9t5tgk0ladp8ev8p8slbj8ge0ccf2qm(a)4ax.com... >>>> >>>> >>>>> Ahhh yeah.....Isolated driving conditions. >>>>> Fact still remains that overall the V8 will use more. >>>>> >>>>> Forget trips, towing etc etc...look at the whole driving >>>>> experience. >>>>> >>>> Didn't you read Dan's post about his getting 9l/100km from a >>>> Clubsport 6.2l Wagon? I can't do better than 11l/100km from my V6, >>>> 3.8l Acclaim wagon and I don't drive like a rat up a drainpipe >>>> either. I've had V8's myself and I'll be stuffed if I know how he >>>> does it. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Milton >>> >>> Dan does not get 9/100l from his Holden. >>> He may have on a trip with absolutely no load and a strong >>> tailwind...however for normal driving he will get far worse. >>> >> >> His economy is fairly typical, not an exception. >> >> I know you won't believe that but that is your problem. >> > Yes, typical for highway driving.....but over a range of normal > driving conditions it'll be far less and more than a similar V6 over > the same normal driving conditions. > > I know you won't agree however testing by experts using defined > criteria has shown this to be so. > Nobody suggested otherwise, but people in the real world don't drive to a specific set of tests and they often buy vehicles that best suit their purposes.
From: OzOne on 26 Apr 2010 21:10 On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:54:51 +0000 (UTC), am9obmhAc2hvYWwubmV0LmF1(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au (hippo) wrote: > >Or to put it another way: >Were one to take a significant quantity of goals, or even just one pair of >rather heayy ones, to South America in a tandem trailer, then it is quite >likely that the Mitsubishi V6 *would* use more fuel to perform the same >task in the same time as the V8 Holden did. :) Indeed....and not quite likely but certainly. OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
From: hippo on 26 Apr 2010 21:50
OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:54:51 +0000 (UTC), > am9obmhAc2hvYWwubmV0LmF1(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au (hippo) wrote: > > > > > >Or to put it another way: > >Were one to take a significant quantity of goals, or even just one pair of > >rather heayy ones, to South America in a tandem trailer, then it is quite > >likely that the Mitsubishi V6 *would* use more fuel to perform the same > >task in the same time as the V8 Holden did. :) > > Indeed....and not quite likely but certainly. > > > > > OzOne of the three twins > > I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. > > This could be a stellar moment. A point on which (almost) every AusCars regular can agree. -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au |