From: hippo on 26 Apr 2010 23:40
The Raven wrote:
> "Milton" <millame23(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
> > news:lgn9t5tgk0ladp8ev8p8slbj8ge0ccf2qm(a)4ax.com...
> >> Ahhh yeah.....Isolated driving conditions.
> >> Fact still remains that overall the V8 will use more.
> Think it through... The average car uses about 16HP to hold 100kph so,
> assuming similar BSFC and VE they'll both be about the same. In practice,
> the V8 will be fractionally worse because of: weight, frictional losses etc)
> >> Forget trips, towing etc etc...look at the whole driving experience.
> > Didn't you read Dan's post about his getting 9l/100km from a Clubsport
> > 6.2l Wagon? I can't do better than 11l/100km from my V6, 3.8l Acclaim
> > wagon and I don't drive like a rat up a drainpipe either.
> There is something wrong with your car then, I can regularly better that
> with a supercharged 3.8L V6.
> If a SV6 Sportwagon gets over 11L/100K in heavy driving then, something is
> wrong with the driver. 10.5L/100K is more like it.
> > I've had V8's myself and I'll be stuffed if I know how he does it.
Maybe we should all move to the Hay Plains instead of places with lots of
hills, bends and tourist traffic?
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From: hippo on 27 Apr 2010 00:04
D Walford wrote:
> On 26/04/2010 10:30 AM, OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
> > Ahhh yeah.....Isolated driving conditions.
> > Fact still remains that overall the V8 will use more.
> > Forget trips, towing etc etc...look at the whole driving experience.
> Overall driving experience is where they excel, they might not be the
> most economical but for a powerful engine their economy is hard to beat,
> IMO their good point is you have have both power and good economy in the
> one engine controlled simply by how much right foot you use.
> Mate used to have a V8 VZ Calais for a company car, he averaged
> 11.00lts/100klm over the 3yrs he had it including towing his Clubman on
> trailer to various events which is not bad economy overall.
Just for the point of comparison: our 1981 non turbo Saab sedan with a 3
spd BW37 auto returned about 11.2L/100Kms come hell or high water over
about 200,000Kms. Towing 5-600Kgs made it a bit worse, but it was hardly
ever better. A similar 5 spd will return about 7-8 (until the gearbox
Most current production sixes and eights return overall performance /
consumption figures that were pipedreams 30 years ago. Considering that
the current vehicles are also bigger, heavier and driving a lot more
accessories, I don't think we do too badly.
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From: Noddy on 27 Apr 2010 00:09
"hippo" <am9obmhAc2hvYWwubmV0LmF1(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au> wrote in
> This could be a stellar moment.
> A point on which (almost) every AusCars regular can agree.
It won't last long. Once the bullshitting MMAL apologist realises there's no
argument he'll shift the goalposts yet again just to create one.
Purely in the interests of having someone to talk to.....
From: Noddy on 27 Apr 2010 00:12
"Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
> Utter nonsense.
Complete bullshit actually :)
Driven hard they're quite thirsty, but even when they are they're better
than some. Driven with some respect they're incredibly economical, and put a
lot of other vehicles with smaller engines to shame.
From: OzOne on 27 Apr 2010 00:45
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:09:30 +1000, "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote:
>"hippo" <am9obmhAc2hvYWwubmV0LmF1(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au> wrote in
>> This could be a stellar moment.
>> A point on which (almost) every AusCars regular can agree.
>It won't last long. Once the bullshitting MMAL apologist realises there's no
>argument he'll shift the goalposts yet again just to create one.
>Purely in the interests of having someone to talk to.....
This donkey hasn't yet realised that I and all others would agree that
a V8 will get better economy than a V6 when towing.
What a fuckwit he remains!
OzOne of the three twins
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