info about a speed camera in Woodburn, Northern Rivers, NSW
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From: Kev on 3 Oct 2008 09:15 Avery wrote: > On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:02:52 +1000, Kev <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote: > >> Avery wrote: >>> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 00:29:00 -0700 (PDT), v <Vossaka(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Does anybody know anything about this particular revenue rasier? >>>> >>>> I just got back from a long trip with the wife and kids from Melbourne >>>> up to the Gold Coast and I'm greeted by a notice informing me of a >>>> $243 fine for doing 15kmh more than the limit. They don't tell me >>>> what the limit was but I assume it was 60kmh, going by the Google >>>> maps. The notice also says that it was the "B/W Richmond and Sussex >>>> Streets". I don't know what the "B/W" means but I was just driving >>>> through on the main highway and I did not cross that intersection >>>> which is not on the highway according to Google Maps. Its probably >>>> one of those areas where the speed limt rapidly drops from 100 to 80 >>>> then to 60 and you either slam on the brakes or go with the traffic. >>>> I'm pretty sure I would go with the traffic which means that they got >>>> lots of other poor bastards that day as well. >>>> >>>> So I'd be grateful if anyone can give me any information about this >>>> thing. Do you know anyone who has successfully challenged a speed >>>> infringement notice taken from this camera? Can anyone send me a jpg >>>> of the intersection so that I can make a basis for a defence? >>>> >>>> I remember the general area and time as having heavy traffic with lots >>>> of road work. I was fully loaded (headed north) with the wife and two >>>> kids and camping gear for a 2 week holiday so I certainly wasn't >>>> driving dangerously or hooning it, but I it was two weeks ago (23rd >>>> September) so I there's no way I can remember exact speed anyway. >> As pointed out by others >> it's 50kph so if you were doing 65 like everyone else then your done >> >>> If you check out the Google maps "street view" of the area and take the photographic cruise from the >>> intersectiction of the highway and Sussex to the intersection of the highway and Richmond you will >>> not only find the speed camera but you will find some 50KPH speed signs, yes that's 50 on the main >>> highway. >>> >>> I think you have been totally done over by the arbitrary speed limits in this state , but I don't >>> think you have a leg to stand on. >>> >>> Sorry, and welcome to NSW, please come again. >> >> Woodburn has a very busy main street and 50kph is quite adequate >> lots of vehicles stopping in front of the shops and the public amenities >> not to mention the servo on the bend just south of the shops >> >> I stop there when ever I pass through in the truck, the 24hour takeaway >> is a good place to get a feed >> >> >> Kev > > The problem is Kev, the lovely little town of Woodburn should not have its main commercial centre on > the main highway between Brisbane a Sydney, or , rather, the highway should not go through that > little town. > > It is absolutely outrageous to have a 50 kph limit on ANY part of that road between Sydney and > Brisbane. All of the bypass roads should have been completed 20 or even 40 years ago. > > If you take into account the immense and tragic loss of life and limb on that road in the past 40 > years, we could have easily built a 4 lane divided highway all the way, and we should complete it > NOW! no argument from me the trip from Sydney to Brisbane should only take 10 hours not 12 and should be flood proof and divided the entire length the other problem is that a lot of these small places almost get wiped out if the highway bypasses them because a lot of local business rely on passing trade Kev Kev
From: Kev on 3 Oct 2008 09:17 Kev wrote: > Avery wrote: >> On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:02:52 +1000, Kev <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote: >> >>> Avery wrote: >>>> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 00:29:00 -0700 (PDT), v <Vossaka(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Does anybody know anything about this particular revenue rasier? >>>>> >>>>> I just got back from a long trip with the wife and kids from Melbourne >>>>> up to the Gold Coast and I'm greeted by a notice informing me of a >>>>> $243 fine for doing 15kmh more than the limit. They don't tell me >>>>> what the limit was but I assume it was 60kmh, going by the Google >>>>> maps. The notice also says that it was the "B/W Richmond and Sussex >>>>> Streets". I don't know what the "B/W" means but I was just driving >>>>> through on the main highway and I did not cross that intersection >>>>> which is not on the highway according to Google Maps. Its probably >>>>> one of those areas where the speed limt rapidly drops from 100 to 80 >>>>> then to 60 and you either slam on the brakes or go with the traffic. >>>>> I'm pretty sure I would go with the traffic which means that they got >>>>> lots of other poor bastards that day as well. >>>>> >>>>> So I'd be grateful if anyone can give me any information about this >>>>> thing. Do you know anyone who has successfully challenged a speed >>>>> infringement notice taken from this camera? Can anyone send me a jpg >>>>> of the intersection so that I can make a basis for a defence? >>>>> >>>>> I remember the general area and time as having heavy traffic with lots >>>>> of road work. I was fully loaded (headed north) with the wife and two >>>>> kids and camping gear for a 2 week holiday so I certainly wasn't >>>>> driving dangerously or hooning it, but I it was two weeks ago (23rd >>>>> September) so I there's no way I can remember exact speed anyway. >>> As pointed out by others >>> it's 50kph so if you were doing 65 like everyone else then your done >>> >>>> If you check out the Google maps "street view" of the area and take >>>> the photographic cruise from the >>>> intersectiction of the highway and Sussex to the intersection of >>>> the highway and Richmond you will >>>> not only find the speed camera but you will find some 50KPH speed >>>> signs, yes that's 50 on the main >>>> highway. >>>> >>>> I think you have been totally done over by the arbitrary speed >>>> limits in this state , but I don't >>>> think you have a leg to stand on. >>>> Sorry, and welcome to NSW, please come again. >>> >>> Woodburn has a very busy main street and 50kph is quite adequate >>> lots of vehicles stopping in front of the shops and the public >>> amenities not to mention the servo on the bend just south of the shops >>> >>> I stop there when ever I pass through in the truck, the 24hour >>> takeaway is a good place to get a feed >>> >>> >>> Kev >> >> The problem is Kev, the lovely little town of Woodburn should not have >> its main commercial centre on >> the main highway between Brisbane a Sydney, or , rather, the highway >> should not go through that >> little town. >> It is absolutely outrageous to have a 50 kph limit on ANY part of that >> road between Sydney and >> Brisbane. All of the bypass roads should have been completed 20 or >> even 40 years ago. >> >> If you take into account the immense and tragic loss of life and limb >> on that road in the past 40 >> years, we could have easily built a 4 lane divided highway all the >> way, and we should complete it >> NOW! > > > no argument from me > the trip from Sydney to Brisbane should only take 10 hours not 12 > and should be flood proof and divided the entire length > > the other problem is that a lot of these small places almost get wiped > out if the highway bypasses them because a lot of local business rely on > passing trade but on the other hand it would be great to sit on the bank of the rivers having lunch without a constant flow of traffic(heavy and light) 20 metres away Kev
From: OzOne on 3 Oct 2008 17:44 On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:32:25 +1000, Avery <Avery(a)home.sydney.au> wrote: > >The problem is Kev, the lovely little town of Woodburn should not have its main commercial centre on >the main highway between Brisbane a Sydney, or , rather, the highway should not go through that >little town. > >It is absolutely outrageous to have a 50 kph limit on ANY part of that road between Sydney and >Brisbane. All of the bypass roads should have been completed 20 or even 40 years ago. > >If you take into account the immense and tragic loss of life and limb on that road in the past 40 >years, we could have easily built a 4 lane divided highway all the way, and we should complete it >NOW! And until a bypass is done then we have a 50kph limit....that IS being enforced OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
From: OzOne on 3 Oct 2008 17:45 On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:39:00 GMT, Marty <martywoyzak(a)communitymail.com> wrote: >On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:29:00 -0700, v wrote: > >> Does anybody know anything about this particular revenue rasier? > >Yep. I drive past it several times a week. > >You would have to be almost asleep at the wheel to miss the Woodburn >speed camera. Like all fixed speed cameras in NSW there are large signs >posted to warn you that you are approaching them. If you didn't see the >signs you have serious situational awareness problems. > >If it is any consolation, that 50km/h section of the Pacific Highway will >be bypassed by a nice dual carriageway motorway within a couple of years. >Work is in progress now, so there is a good chance that the next time you >come up this way you won't get booked by that camera :) > He can be doing 110kph with a situationa awareness problem.....Oh Goody :-) OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
From: D Walford on 3 Oct 2008 19:34
Kev wrote: > Avery wrote: >> On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:02:52 +1000, Kev <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote: >> >>> Avery wrote: >>>> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 00:29:00 -0700 (PDT), v <Vossaka(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Does anybody know anything about this particular revenue rasier? >>>>> >>>>> I just got back from a long trip with the wife and kids from Melbourne >>>>> up to the Gold Coast and I'm greeted by a notice informing me of a >>>>> $243 fine for doing 15kmh more than the limit. They don't tell me >>>>> what the limit was but I assume it was 60kmh, going by the Google >>>>> maps. The notice also says that it was the "B/W Richmond and Sussex >>>>> Streets". I don't know what the "B/W" means but I was just driving >>>>> through on the main highway and I did not cross that intersection >>>>> which is not on the highway according to Google Maps. Its probably >>>>> one of those areas where the speed limt rapidly drops from 100 to 80 >>>>> then to 60 and you either slam on the brakes or go with the traffic. >>>>> I'm pretty sure I would go with the traffic which means that they got >>>>> lots of other poor bastards that day as well. >>>>> >>>>> So I'd be grateful if anyone can give me any information about this >>>>> thing. Do you know anyone who has successfully challenged a speed >>>>> infringement notice taken from this camera? Can anyone send me a jpg >>>>> of the intersection so that I can make a basis for a defence? >>>>> >>>>> I remember the general area and time as having heavy traffic with lots >>>>> of road work. I was fully loaded (headed north) with the wife and two >>>>> kids and camping gear for a 2 week holiday so I certainly wasn't >>>>> driving dangerously or hooning it, but I it was two weeks ago (23rd >>>>> September) so I there's no way I can remember exact speed anyway. >>> As pointed out by others >>> it's 50kph so if you were doing 65 like everyone else then your done >>> >>>> If you check out the Google maps "street view" of the area and take >>>> the photographic cruise from the >>>> intersectiction of the highway and Sussex to the intersection of >>>> the highway and Richmond you will >>>> not only find the speed camera but you will find some 50KPH speed >>>> signs, yes that's 50 on the main >>>> highway. >>>> >>>> I think you have been totally done over by the arbitrary speed >>>> limits in this state , but I don't >>>> think you have a leg to stand on. >>>> Sorry, and welcome to NSW, please come again. >>> >>> Woodburn has a very busy main street and 50kph is quite adequate >>> lots of vehicles stopping in front of the shops and the public >>> amenities not to mention the servo on the bend just south of the shops >>> >>> I stop there when ever I pass through in the truck, the 24hour >>> takeaway is a good place to get a feed >>> >>> >>> Kev >> >> The problem is Kev, the lovely little town of Woodburn should not have >> its main commercial centre on >> the main highway between Brisbane a Sydney, or , rather, the highway >> should not go through that >> little town. >> It is absolutely outrageous to have a 50 kph limit on ANY part of that >> road between Sydney and >> Brisbane. All of the bypass roads should have been completed 20 or >> even 40 years ago. >> >> If you take into account the immense and tragic loss of life and limb >> on that road in the past 40 >> years, we could have easily built a 4 lane divided highway all the >> way, and we should complete it >> NOW! > > > no argument from me > the trip from Sydney to Brisbane should only take 10 hours not 12 > and should be flood proof and divided the entire length > > the other problem is that a lot of these small places almost get wiped > out if the highway bypasses them because a lot of local business rely on > passing trade That was claimed by business people in the towns on the Hume in Vic that are now all by passed, it mainly affected roadhouses but the world didn't come to an end as many predicted. I know the person who owned roadhouses in Winton and Euroa which are both now closed, he wasn't happy and he lost some income but he had other sources of income and he's still quite wealthy. Daryl |