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From: JMS jmsmith2010 on 16 May 2010 13:24
On Wed, 12 May 2010 18:27:20 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
<nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/apr/16/police-cyclists-red-lights
>


I like the bit :

"Police forces are now obliged by central government to tackle issues
flagged up by local communities. In the City, this tends to bring
complaints about rough sleepers and law-flouting cyclists."


So if people start creating a demand for such police action -
complaining to councils - writing to local newspapers about the
inconsiderate cyclists they see - then there will be much more chance
of something being done about them


Sounds a good idea to me : get those pens out !!


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Many cyclists are proving the need for registration by their contempt for the Highway Code and laws.

The answer:
All cyclists over 16 to take compulsory test, have compulsory insurance, and be registered.
Registration number to be clearly visible on the back of mandatory hi-viz vest.
Habitual law breakers' cycles confiscated and crushed.
(With thanks to KeithT for the idea)

From: Halmyre on 17 May 2010 02:32
On 16 May, 18:24, JMS <jmsmith2...(a)live.co.uk > wrote:
> On Wed, 12 May 2010 18:27:20 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
>
> <nbk...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/apr/16/police-cyclists-red...
>
> I like the bit :
>
> "Police forces are now obliged by central government to tackle issues
> flagged up by local communities. In the City, this tends to bring
> complaints about rough sleepers and law-flouting cyclists."
>

I think it's a bit harsh to classify rough sleepers along with
cyclists.

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Halmyre
From: David Hansen on 17 May 2010 03:08
On Sun, 16 May 2010 12:48:09 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be
webreader <websitereader(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote this:-

>> Note also that at one time the designated place to put non-folding
>> bikes on many of the trains in and out of London Waterloo was the
>> doorway. Modern trains have other places for non-folding bikes, but
>> there may still be some of the older ones which may not have been
>> modified to have a place other than the doorway for non-folding
>> bikes.
>
>Nice try There aren't

There aren't what?

None of those trains left?
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_455#Fleet_details>
and <http://www.semgonline.com/gallery/class455_51.html> say that
there are. On my last trip to Waterloo, at Christmas, there
certainly were.

They have not been modified to have a place other than the doorway
for non-folding bikes? I have no idea what the refurbishment
involved in this respect and the sources I quoted are silent on
this. The cycle policies of both Train Operating Companies are
silent on this point too, but given that one doesn't mention
designated bike space in its answer about wheelchair space
<http://www.southernrailway.com/your-journey/bicycle-policy/116/#7>
I presume the refurbishment did not include space for non-folding
bikes, BICBW.

Nice try.



--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/ukpga_20000023_en_8#pt3-pb3-l1g54
From: Tony Dragon on 17 May 2010 14:10
David Hansen wrote:
> On Sun, 16 May 2010 12:48:09 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be
> webreader <websitereader(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote this:-
>
>>> Note also that at one time the designated place to put non-folding
>>> bikes on many of the trains in and out of London Waterloo was the
>>> doorway. Modern trains have other places for non-folding bikes, but
>>> there may still be some of the older ones which may not have been
>>> modified to have a place other than the doorway for non-folding
>>> bikes.
>> Nice try There aren't
>
> There aren't what?
>
> None of those trains left?
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_455#Fleet_details>
> and <http://www.semgonline.com/gallery/class455_51.html> say that
> there are. On my last trip to Waterloo, at Christmas, there
> certainly were.
>
> They have not been modified to have a place other than the doorway
> for non-folding bikes? I have no idea what the refurbishment
> involved in this respect and the sources I quoted are silent on
> this. The cycle policies of both Train Operating Companies are
> silent on this point too, but given that one doesn't mention
> designated bike space in its answer about wheelchair space
> <http://www.southernrailway.com/your-journey/bicycle-policy/116/#7>
> I presume the refurbishment did not include space for non-folding
> bikes, BICBW.
>
> Nice try.
>
>
>

If you look closely at the last photo you will see the symbol for cycles.
http://www.semgonline.com/gallery/class455_52.html


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Tony Dragon
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