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From: Brimstone on 20 May 2010 11:09 It seems that in order to make so called "green" equipment, like electric bikes and cars, it's necessary to use ever more of the planet's dwindling resources which themselves rapidly diminishing. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8689547.stm So with petroleum running out and the materials needed to create more efficient electric devices also running out, almost before we've started it looks as if we're screwed.
From: Clive George on 20 May 2010 11:25 On 20/05/2010 16:09, Brimstone wrote: > It seems that in order to make so called "green" equipment, like > electric bikes and cars, it's necessary to use ever more of the planet's > dwindling resources which themselves rapidly diminishing. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8689547.stm > > So with petroleum running out and the materials needed to create more > efficient electric devices also running out, almost before we've started > it looks as if we're screwed. "Most came form the United States in the 1960s but tightening environmental regulations and a price war closed the last Californian mine, handing China a virtual monopoly." If demand is sufficient, prices will rise and that mine will become economic again.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 20 May 2010 11:53 On Thu, 20 May 2010 16:09:59 +0100, "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >So with petroleum running out and the materials needed to create more >efficient electric devices also running out, almost before we've started it >looks as if we're screwed. people are ignoring the real problem. All the changes we are trying to make are only putting off the evil day, we live in a finite world in hundreds of ways, space for housing, water, power, ability to absorb pollution, raw materials etc etc etc but our population growth is not finite until.......... -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: GT on 20 May 2010 12:07 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Y_WdnZyOILNUzWjWnZ2dnUVZ8vGdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > It seems that in order to make so called "green" equipment, like electric > bikes and cars, it's necessary to use ever more of the planet's dwindling > resources which themselves rapidly diminishing. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8689547.stm Saying 'so called' is absolutely spot on. Far more energy is used up building these new battery cars than will ever be used in an existing diesel or petrol car's lifetime. The only reason to buy an electric car is if you are in the market for a new car anyway and don't plan on driving any long journeys, as their range is very poor!
From: John on 20 May 2010 14:36
"GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4bf55e2f$0$24677$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:Y_WdnZyOILNUzWjWnZ2dnUVZ8vGdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> It seems that in order to make so called "green" equipment, like electric >> bikes and cars, it's necessary to use ever more of the planet's dwindling >> resources which themselves rapidly diminishing. >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8689547.stm > > Saying 'so called' is absolutely spot on. Far more energy is used up > building these new battery cars than will ever be used in an existing > diesel or petrol car's lifetime. The only reason to buy an electric car is > if you are in the market for a new car anyway and don't plan on driving > any long journeys, as their range is very poor! > Too many people - too many now wanting consumer goods and cars: http://www.optimumpopulation.org/ |