From: Clocky on
OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 08:19:26 +0800, "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com>
> wrote:
>
>> 380VRX wrote:
>>> when it was released it had 4 wheel disc brakes standard accross the
>>> range and they were rated very highly for reliability over holden
>>> and ford
>>
>> Actually they weren't. Those autos were a dog and the engines were
>> sluggish fuel guzzlers with timing chain issues... and that's when
>> they were new...
>>
>
> Actually they were, when released well ahead of the competition, had
> better fuel consumption etc etc....

Errr, compared to what other 4 cyl car? It certainly wasn't in the class of
the Falcodore in size or power, and it had absolutely nothing over the Camry
it was competing with in the reliability stakes.

But hey...You were a Holden
> man...you needed to believe what they said.
>

Wrong again.

> I owned a VS Commodore at the same time...It really was a bucket of
> bolts when compared.
>

We were talking about early Magnas, not that the later Astron powered ones
were worth a pinch of salt either.


From: Clocky on
Noddy wrote:
> "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
> news:4bcbe5fa$0$27851$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>
>> The only good thing about them were that they provided the bread and
>> butter for many a mechanic.
>
> They sure did.
>
> I actually think they're a great car. They paid for half my mortgage
> :)

Well, ok slight exaggeration but yeah lol.

The Sigma/early Magna fiasco seeded the demise of MMAL... public confidence
in their cars plummeted and they never recovered.

Case in point, my Grandfather had a thing for Chrysler and then Mitsubishi,
and he bought a Sigma Scorpion new when they came out. First the clutch
failed and then the gearbox crapped itself and when the engine started
rattling he got so pissed with it that he traded it in on a Pintara (of all
things, but which never gave him any trouble) and never considered another
Mitsubishi again.







From: OzOne on
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:43:41 +0800, "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com>
wrote:

>OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 08:19:26 +0800, "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com>
>> wrote:

>>
>> Actually they were, when released well ahead of the competition, had
>> better fuel consumption etc etc....
>
>Errr, compared to what other 4 cyl car? It certainly wasn't in the class of
>the Falcodore in size or power, and it had absolutely nothing over the Camry
>it was competing with in the reliability stakes.
>
I was talking about the 6






OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
From: Clocky on
OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:02:28 +0800, "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Noddy wrote:
>>> "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4bcbe5fa$0$27851$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>>>
>>>> The only good thing about them were that they provided the bread
>>>> and butter for many a mechanic.
>>>
>>> They sure did.
>>>
>>> I actually think they're a great car. They paid for half my mortgage
>>> :)
>>
>> Well, ok slight exaggeration but yeah lol.
>>
>> The Sigma/early Magna fiasco seeded the demise of MMAL... public
>> confidence in their cars plummeted and they never recovered.
>>
>> Case in point, my Grandfather had a thing for Chrysler and then
>> Mitsubishi, and he bought a Sigma Scorpion new when they came out.
>> First the clutch failed and then the gearbox crapped itself and when
>> the engine started rattling he got so pissed with it that he traded
>> it in on a Pintara (of all things, but which never gave him any
>> trouble) and never considered another Mitsubishi again.
>>
>
> Funny init...


Seems you got lucky with your Mitsubishi's and unlucky with the Holden's.

Mileage may vary, but there is no question that the early Magna autos were
weak and the timing chains were a rattley affair across the board. Can't
complain though, junk like that provided a regular cash flow for our
specialist Renault/Puegeot/Citroen workshop.