middle-class anti-social behaviour
in [UK Drivers]
|
From: Brimstone on 11 Aug 2010 06:53 "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:s51xl5e4d164$.12v5mg6nqlm40.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:59:58 +0100, Brimstone wrote: > >>> I agree that was probably her intent, maybe she thought only middle >>> class >>> people would read it? Hmmm. >> >> It was in the Torygraph! > > old tories then. > >>> that cannot make sense when she is linking the middle class to speeding, >>> unless she thinks the middle classes can speed and simultaneously >>> condemn >>> the working class for the same thing. > >>That's exactly what she was saying. > > thats not what I read. > Which part of "People think, 'we should be able to get away with it'. They wouldn't tolerate law breaking by somebody else but they do it themselves without thinking." passed you by?
From: Brimstone on 11 Aug 2010 07:27 "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1ow8yalsr2nz6$.1q0u30d90pd7l$.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:53:08 +0100, Brimstone wrote: > >> Which part of "People think, 'we should be able to get away with it'. >> They >> wouldn't tolerate law breaking by somebody else but they do it themselves >> without thinking." passed you by? > > none of it. I just interpret it differently from you, as do others. It > means the middle classes break the law speeding but do not tolerate > *other* > lawbreaking by others. She didn't say "the middle classes think they can > speed but others cannot". > Good, we're making progress, because I didn't say that either.
From: Brimstone on 11 Aug 2010 07:30 "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:ykldldafzdwx$.17yauqtq5wp7.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:27:19 +0100, Brimstone wrote: > >>> none of it. I just interpret it differently from you, as do others. It >>> means the middle classes break the law speeding but do not tolerate >>> *other* >>> lawbreaking by others. She didn't say "the middle classes think they can >>> speed but others cannot". >>> >> Good, we're making progress, because I didn't say that either. > > you call this progress? > Yes, we're in agreement. Or, do you not consider that progress?
From: Brimstone on 11 Aug 2010 08:45 "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:46l5i5penraj.xpt3zu0e3axt.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:30:57 +0100, Brimstone wrote: > >>>> Good, we're making progress, because I didn't say that either. >>> >>> you call this progress? >>> >> Yes, we're in agreement. >> >> Or, do you not consider that progress? > > if we are in agreement, yes. > Excellent.
From: Mike P on 11 Aug 2010 11:22
On 8 Aug, 22:38, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > "I'll do as I like and stuff everyone else" seems to be the gist of this > interview. I think she makes some valid points. > > <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7933708/Julie-Spence-int...> > > "Mrs Spence has been critical of Theresa May, the Home Secretary, for taking > an over-simplistic view of policing and being too quick to scrap "all things > Labour". She supported the now defunct policing pledge - a 10-point promise > guaranteeing issues such as response times - as long as it was not used as > another target to measure police against. " This woman's replacement (or boss, or another CPO) was interviewed on R5L yesterday morning. He said, in not so many words, that she was talking bollocks. The class thing she made a point of is bollocks, and rather refreshingly for a plod, he said that bad driving causes most accidents, not speeding. He said of course, speed is a factor in some, but most are caused simply by inattention and/or bad driving. -- Mike P |