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From: Adrian on 9 Aug 2010 11:01 Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > In the village where I live, there is a 30 limit. For a couple of > hundred yards, in the centre, past the shops, even 20 is too fast. I > usually drop to around 15. But it's surprising how many thrash through > at 50 or 60. Would a 20 limit really change their ways? > > I'd certainly support a short stretch of 20 limit. However, for some > reason, it's very difficult to get them. Some of the country lanes > around here have recently had 40 - and, in a few cases, 30 limits > introduced - but some of those were a bit of a battle. Parish councils > and local people seem to meet a brick wall when they present their case. > It seems that nothing less than wholesale slaughter on a continuing > basis will move the county councils to action. You seem to be confusing "appropriate speed for conditions" with "speed limit".
From: GT on 9 Aug 2010 11:05 "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:8cajheF11dU56(a)mid.individual.net... > Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> gurgled happily, > sounding much like they were saying: > >> In the village where I live, there is a 30 limit. For a couple of >> hundred yards, in the centre, past the shops, even 20 is too fast. I >> usually drop to around 15. But it's surprising how many thrash through >> at 50 or 60. Would a 20 limit really change their ways? >> >> I'd certainly support a short stretch of 20 limit. However, for some >> reason, it's very difficult to get them. Some of the country lanes >> around here have recently had 40 - and, in a few cases, 30 limits >> introduced - but some of those were a bit of a battle. Parish councils >> and local people seem to meet a brick wall when they present their case. >> It seems that nothing less than wholesale slaughter on a continuing >> basis will move the county councils to action. > > You seem to be confusing "appropriate speed for conditions" with "speed > limit". Now where have we heard that before. Someone usually replies to point out that the limit *is* the recommended speed for the road given normal conditions. Then a reply about, please show me the place in the highway code where it says the sign is a target speed. Then someone replies to say that you will fail a driving test for not driving up close to the speed limit, then someone else replies to say no you won't. Then someone will say that the speed limit is too slow in certain conditions for some drivers. Then someone else will say I did say "for the conditions". Then an argument breaks out. etc etc.
From: boltar2003 on 9 Aug 2010 11:21 On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:55:28 +0100 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote: >> Indeed, it'll be the scaremongers that stop it. They seem to overlook the >> fact that most people travel at 80, or faster, already. > >Problem with that argument is that if the limit were 80, then lots would >travel at 90 or faster. So you enforce the limit better. Anyway , most people feel comfortable at 80 and so wouldn't speed anymore plus most people start to chicken out above 90 and virtually no one does over the ton even on a clear road so I don't reckon you'd simply find the same amount of people speeding at 10mph higher than they would do with a 70 limit. B2003
From: bod on 9 Aug 2010 11:25 boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: > On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:55:28 +0100 > "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote: >>> Indeed, it'll be the scaremongers that stop it. They seem to overlook the >>> fact that most people travel at 80, or faster, already. >> Problem with that argument is that if the limit were 80, then lots would >> travel at 90 or faster. > > So you enforce the limit better. Anyway , most people feel comfortable at 80 > and so wouldn't speed anymore plus most people start to chicken out above 90 > and virtually no one does over the ton even on a clear road so I don't reckon > you'd simply find the same amount of people speeding at 10mph higher than they > would do with a 70 limit. > > B2003 > > Well I've been on some motorway sections where a lot of cars were averaging 90 and even a hundred plus sometimes. Bod
From: boltar2003 on 9 Aug 2010 11:38
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:25:39 +0100 bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >Well I've been on some motorway sections where a lot of cars were >averaging 90 and even a hundred plus sometimes. Not the M40 around Beaconsfield after midnight by any chance? :) B2003 |