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From: NM on 9 Aug 2010 11:39 On 9 Aug, 14:13, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 14:06:11 +0100, Chelsea Tractor Man wrote: > > ´Speeding is middle-class anti-social behaviour > > the R4 presenter this am seemed quite keen on more 20s in town centres > offset by 80 on the motorways. Brake were very keen on lots more 20s and > thought you couldn't have 80 because the rare motorway accidents are often > serious. > I cannot see the 80 happening. It's already happening, might as well make it legal, +5mph would be better, then the bulk of Mway traffic would move into legal terrority.
From: GT on 9 Aug 2010 11:39 <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message news:i3p6dg$vpp$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:55:28 +0100 > "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote: >>> Indeed, it'll be the scaremongers that stop it. They seem to overlook >>> the >>> fact that most people travel at 80, or faster, already. >> >>Problem with that argument is that if the limit were 80, then lots would >>travel at 90 or faster. > > So you enforce the limit better. Anyway , most people feel comfortable at > 80 > and so wouldn't speed anymore plus most people start to chicken out above > 90 > and virtually no one does over the ton even on a clear road so I don't > reckon > you'd simply find the same amount of people speeding at 10mph higher than > they > would do with a 70 limit. I'm not too sure about that. Your statement assumes that their comfort at 80 and fear of 90+ is due to the speed. Perhaps you are wrong and its simply the amount by which they are breaking the limit that holds them back? Of course, it could be other things - economy, cost, environment, the screaching noise from the little engine, the passenger saying 'slow down', engine temps, other traffic, head-wind, side-wind, etc...
From: NM on 9 Aug 2010 11:41 On 9 Aug, 15:55, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > > news:rMOdnXtFiZZ3l_3RnZ2dnUVZ8nSdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > > > > > > "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > >news:152iy79149hvd.1gznaye1ry640$.dlg(a)40tude.net... > >> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 14:06:11 +0100, Chelsea Tractor Man wrote: > > >>> ´Speeding is middle-class anti-social behaviour > > >> the R4 presenter this am seemed quite keen on more 20s in town centres > >> offset by 80 on the motorways. Brake were very keen on lots more 20s and > >> thought you couldn't have 80 because the rare motorway accidents are > >> often > >> serious. > >> I cannot see the 80 happening. > > > Indeed, it'll be the scaremongers that stop it. They seem to overlook the > > fact that most people travel at 80, or faster, already. > > Problem with that argument is that if the limit were 80, then lots would > travel at 90 or faster. > > > The only aspect that causes me concern is the greater speed differential > > with lorries and coaches. Too few people look far enough ahead or back as > > it is. So what, there is little evidence that increased Mway speeds caue accidents.
From: GT on 9 Aug 2010 11:41 "NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message news:f8772dc6-d248-4275-ad7b-619490999515(a)f6g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... On 9 Aug, 14:13, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 14:06:11 +0100, Chelsea Tractor Man wrote: > > �Speeding is middle-class anti-social behaviour > > the R4 presenter this am seemed quite keen on more 20s in town centres > offset by 80 on the motorways. Brake were very keen on lots more 20s and > thought you couldn't have 80 because the rare motorway accidents are often > serious. > I cannot see the 80 happening. It's already happening, might as well make it legal, +5mph would be better, then the bulk of Mway traffic would move into legal terrority. Not really - majority would just add 5mph to their speeds.
From: GT on 9 Aug 2010 11:41
<boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message news:i3p7cv$1sc$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:25:39 +0100 > bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>Well I've been on some motorway sections where a lot of cars were >>averaging 90 and even a hundred plus sometimes. > > Not the M40 around Beaconsfield after midnight by any chance? :) Or the 2-lane M8 perhaps? |